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Darius Kazemi

There's a collection of old roadside photos that I am turning into an automated bot to go here on fedi. There is definitely some racist imagery in there. I can do a keyword thing to catch when much of the racist imagery appears.

I am wondering: is it better to simply not show the racist imagery and present a sanitized version of history, or to put the racist imagery behind a CW so people can opt out but also it doesn't ignore the racism?

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Darius Kazemi

Someone beat me to it, the bot exists here, though I can't tell if it filters stuff or CWs certain posts or what botsin.space/@oldroadside

murph

@darius I don't recall ever seeing one CW'd.

HooliganGrundy

@darius Maybe it would be useful to curate two versions for comparison? A sanitized/whitewashed gallery and then reality?

Will Tuladhar-Douglas

@darius

Where are the photos from?

Darius Kazemi

@yetiinabox a Library of Congress collection, loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=mrg

There is a bot for it on fediverse already, that I didn't know about until posting this original post: @oldroadside

Will Tuladhar-Douglas

@darius @oldroadside

When I read your original question, I was thinking not about the source of the materials, but the place depicted, in order to think about who you should consult and how you might handle the challenge of images with racist or otherwise oppressive content.

It did make me think: it's possible to imagine a "curation bot" that actually uses this problem to help folks learn. So instead of posting images directly, the project has a group of curators from communities whose oppression or abuse might be portrayed - so in the USAian case, Black Americans, Latinx, Asian Americans, Native Americans. The images go first to them, and they add content to the images - calling out dogwhistles, showing the origins of hate iconography, surfacing historical details of a place - and that bundle, image+curation, is what gets posted.

Of course I would argue that car culture itself is structural violence on a staggering scale, intersectional with racist and gendered structural violence, and that would also be interesting to curate in these images.

I mean, wow, the bomber gas station in Oregon. I remember that place.What could you say with that as your starting point?

But as you say, someone already got there.

@darius @oldroadside

When I read your original question, I was thinking not about the source of the materials, but the place depicted, in order to think about who you should consult and how you might handle the challenge of images with racist or otherwise oppressive content.

It did make me think: it's possible to imagine a "curation bot" that actually uses this problem to help folks learn. So instead of posting images directly, the project has a group of curators from communities whose oppression...

London!

@darius the collection is curated and maintained by museum professionals, meaning anyone who observes the contents in the intended setting is in an academic mindset and aware of and prepared for what they are exposing themselves to.

people following a bot on the internet are doing so for amusement and maybe mild educational benefit.

this should never have been a question, honestly

Darius Kazemi

@hammerhead I think it's a question worth asking. If I didn't ask questions like this (in advance of any potential harm!) I would never learn.

London!

@darius the adage that there’s no such thing as a stupid question is wrong

there are absolutely thoughts you should be able to sort out yourself and “should I put more racism on the internet?” is one of them.

the echo chamber of white nonsense likening not posting racism as an amusement to totalitarian control and then the one actual person of color happening upon you saying “wtf of course not” should tell you the company you keep is lacking

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