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 And STOP with bullshit excuses like: "Yeaaaahh... but if we tax the rich they will leave our country for a better tax heaven" My response: LET THEM! I'll help them move, rather yesterday! If the rich don't wanna pay up, kick them out or put them in jail 🤷 That's what happens with other people also if they EVADE tax like the rich do Personally I'm so done with this stupid game 31 comments
 @kelsiraespace @stux problem with this approach is that none of them look like they'd be good meat  @stux let's make politics a minimum wage job and impose the same kind of ethics rules that the bottom rung employees get at corporations. You get zero gifts. Let's see how long it takes them to decide what a living wage is then. @TheMNWolf @stux I mean I get the idea but that's how you get a great majority of landlord/venture capitalist/millionaire+ politicians. I'll say it again.. If you are a billionaire.. you have a serious sickness. There is no valid reason in this universe one should hord so much while so much suffer Billionaires have an illeness. Being a billionaire should be viewed with the same concern for wellbeing as a double-wide stacked from top to bottom with undiscarded garbage and dead cats. It's the same mental illness. @stux as I understand (and I'm open to a honest and respectful conversation), billionaires don't keep their money under the cushion. Their wealth is not sitting still on a bank account. It's all assets, which is usually businesses, companies, investments that give people jobs, allow new business to be created, and grow. All of which help societies to offer better and more accessible services and products, improving everyone's lives and creating more wealth for everyone. @stux eventually some of the benefitted people will have ideas, get funded, be successful, and become billionaires themselves in a virtuous cycle. In general, countries with more billionaires have a better overall quality of life. There's a positive correlation. They are not simply hoarding money.  @pplupo And it's not about "hording money" perse as it is avoiding paying taxes for example, so taking their part in the "normal way" of contributing instead of their "special billionaire way" with "giving jobs" that benefit taxes left and right It's like the more capital one owns the less responsiblity they seem to have "beacuse they give us X or Y" @stux where are they taking the money from? There's not enough money laying around, it's all in the asset's, which is extremely beneficial. Much more than the actual taxes, because it's allowing everyone to get money in their pockets too. @stux I want to take the chance to appreciate the respectful conversation. Thank you for the opportunity.  @stux I'm beginning to wonder. The power in the hands of the likes of Putin + cronies, Burlusconi & big Pharm, and then developing nations like Maduro's and Modi's, not to mention Musk... someone needs to fight for real democracy. Capital seems to be winning. We need to start looking at this as a global issue, where corporate "states" are gaining more power than nation states, made clear by the takeovers of those nation states. The tools for taxing the rich are out rusting in the shed.  @stux If they stopped handing out dual citizenship to everyone with a fat billfold, that would sure help. I don't remember the Statue of Liberty inviting parasites and part-time Americans for a lark. @stux I think a German comedic show discussed this problem of tax evasion of particularly wealthy citizens. In that regard they did not limit it to billionaires but also included multimillionaires. They claimed, they could hardly move all away, esp. since much wealth is bound in property; and even if they did, much – particularly nice – housing would become available, easing the current housing problem in Germany. A bit cynical, but still accurate. :BlobhajBlanketSlate: @stux with this argument I'm always puzzled because I don't understand the nature of the risk that they're invoking. Are they going to leave with their money? Is their money benefitting us in some way right now? Are they going to leave with their real estate?  @stux The problem with the “fear” of losing billionaires and headquarters of corporations overseas is that it is based on the false assumption that having them domestic is an advantage. Like their money and presence benefits the population. That it must trickle down. But what they do is sail yachts and build golf courses polluting and using resources unwisely. We’d be better off having them play with the Orcas. @stux yeah the thing I'm wondering though is that they already don't pay their taxes. If we tax them more, would it change anything? |
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@stux If we just eat one billionare the rest will fall in line