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Your operating system was delivered on floppy disks.
My operating system was delivered on tape.
We are not the same. #IRIX

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Mrs Beanbag

@flexion my operating system was delivered on a big bed with my wife

Unix Herder

@flexion and is the command to tell it to boot from that as hideous as the ones to tell SGIs to boot from CD?

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@hippiegunnut TBF, it was not as simple as "A:\install.exe" 😆 but it was worth the additional effort

Unix Herder

@flexion Oh sure. I came to SGIs after administering mainly Suns (plus a mixture of oddities). The Suns could do "boot cdrom" with the SGIs you had to do something like "boot -f dksc (1,1,8)sash64" and then you had to do some other incantation involving stand/fx which was different depending on scsi ID, and CPU and I had to look up every time. Oh you also needed the *right* cdrom drive and most of them didn't support the sector size needed (I still have a SCSI Plextor somewhere just in case).

Unix Herder

@flexion Once the OS was installed it was lovely. ISTR new ones came installed and they were reliable enough that you basically only ever needed to reinstall them for something dire like a HD failure so it wasn't a major pain - I just remember the "WTF!?" moment at the commands needed the first time I did it.

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@hippiegunnut yes absolutely. rather complicated boot/bootp commands, stand/fx depends on CPU arch and also the installer itself needed a "howto" to complete. Steep learning curve until you figured it out.

RenézuCode

@flexion I could ship you T2/Linux on tape, ... ;-)

Nihl
@flexion I'm not a collector, but I'm very happy I managed to save these from the bin (one is still sealed)
vampirdaddy

@flexion
pffft - Noobs this days. 🧐
Entering the floppy/RL01’s boot ROM address into the program counter and switching to "run" was the way tp go.
Ok, I confess, I was spoiled as I could enter that in octal instead of the binary on older consoles..

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@collectifission there's no size specified on this tape and I can no longer read it due to HW issues, but most tapes that came with that machine were between 150MB to 250MB. IRIX 3.3.2 installation media extracted needs ~230 MB.

Collectifission

@flexion Way better than the 1.44 MB floppies for sure!

arclight

@flexion Just for grins, I looked up STOLL & SIRIX and was happy to see they're still putting out software. Not surprising since apparently they build knitting machines. I was a little worried when I saw they were advertising a "crypto tool" but no, it's exactly what you think it is, a knitting pattern encrypter stoll.com/en/products-and-solu

Elosha

@flexion Steve Knots: „You‘re knitting it wrong!“ 😁

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@davefischer Awesome! OK, you have won this round 😆 😎 💎

onion

@flexion installed AIX 3.something from tape on a old RS6000 many years ago, took half a day or at least it felt like it.

Dr. Fyzziks

@flexion Ohhh… flashbacks to my days doing HP-UX admin! I wish I had kept a tape or two…

Marty Fouts

@flexion my os was delivered on punch cards and I had to toggle switches to load the boot loader; every time I used it; up hill both ways.

OddOpinions5

@flexion

I assume you know why a hard drive is called a "winchester" ?

which is a bit of esoteric lore taught to me by my elders

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@failedLyndonLaRouchite oh, the "30-30" model! my first hard drive was 20 MB in an IBM XT, but that was decades later.

Christine Burns MBE 🏳️‍⚧️📚⧖

@flexion Mine came on paper tape with a manually entered IPL. You ain’t lived kids 😂

Mark Levison

@flexion I might still have that machine kicking around somewhere.

I don't miss those days at all.

Miah Johnson

@MrsMouse @flexion Oldest in my pile of stuff is my set of Xenix floppies. Not as cool as y'alls tapes!

Miah Johnson

@MrsMouse @flexion

Ah! You've got it on 5 1/4's nice! I have the set on 3.5's.

Miah Johnson

@MrsMouse @flexion I recognize that box set. Its a core memory for me. I used to install OpenServer and UnixWare for our clients at my first tech job in 1997. Usually it was OpenServer + Advanced File and Print services.

It was $$$$ (priced per AFP user IIRC)! I got my boss to try out Linux + Samba and we started selling that too as we could charge less to our clients and they'd get _more_ (unlimited users) than what you got with the SCO solution.

Miah Johnson

@MrsMouse @flexion We also sold the full suite of Netscape server tools, Netscape Mail, HTTP, Proxy etc. I don't have any media from that time though, just memories! :(

Mrs Mouse :verified: :queer:

@miah @flexion
I started on a help desk, then in ~97 spent a year at RH, then jumped to IBM doing software testing. Ironically, I was the only applicant with ANY experience with SCO Unix, which was supported, that got me the job. A few years later, they made me a software engineer when they decided to support Linux.

Mrs Mouse :verified: :queer:

@miah @flexion
I had actually started with Linux first, and got my hands on SCO Unix and was thinking, "Wow, I love Linux, and that's the amateur thing; just wait till I see what the Pros use!
...
Anyway. that was educational.

Miah Johnson

@MrsMouse @flexion LOL I had that same thought! And then I tried to install SSH + SSLeay on OpenServer. Or really.. just getting a driver for a 3c905 onto a floppy that SCO could read so I could get it on the Network was a head scratcher. Linux was the clear winner =)

Miah Johnson replied to Mrs Mouse :verified: :queer:

@MrsMouse @flexion Nice! I actually interviewed for Redhat around 2000, at their San Francisco office. I got the offer, but they weren't sure if they wanted to place me in SF (they were closing the office) or NC. I ended up taking a job from the people who likely printed that CD... Turbolinux aka Pacific HiTech. It didn't last though, they laid us all off within a few months.

I didn't actually end up working for RH until a few years ago, but I was in the wrong department and left soon.

Mrs Mouse :verified: :queer: replied to Miah

@miah @flexion
I def remember TurboLinux, but I don't remember much. That was in the day before I had VM's everywhere so I don't think I had the HW to spin up everything to try. I was at IBM by 2000

Miah Johnson replied to Mrs Mouse :verified: :queer:

@MrsMouse @flexion I was really disappointed in our release. There were things that just simply didn't work and were clearly untested _in the installer_. Like.. IIRC you couldn't do a FTP install even though it was offered, it would error. I filed so many bugs but like I said, we were laid off soon after. There was a Japanese company also doing Turbolinux for Japan and that distro was 1000x better than ours.

Mrs Mouse :verified: :queer: replied to Miah

@miah @flexion
thinking of it, I might remember turbolinux being the Japanese one.
that makes a lot of sense.

Miah Johnson replied to Mrs Mouse :verified: :queer:

@MrsMouse @flexion I think the TurobLinux US distribution had nobodies attention since it was a _bad_ fork of Redhat ~4 (I know a lot of us put love into it, but it was bad).

At the office we had some folks from the Japan Turbolinux visit and show us their distro and we were all in total awe of how amazing it was compared to what we were working on.

Miah Johnson replied to Miah

@MrsMouse @flexion I remembered I have one artifact from around this time... After TurboLinux I ended up working for Penguin Computing! For Christmas we all got these watches. I wore this thing for _years_ as you can see its quite worn down. I'd love to get it fixed up at some point.

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@MrsMouse @miah thank you both for sharing photos and stories! I also worked at IBM in 2000 and did my 'Red Hat Certified Engineer' test there :)

Miah Johnson

@vathpela @MrsMouse @flexion No. I worked for a small company doing technical support for other small companies.

Jima :Compromise_bi_flag:

@MrsMouse @miah @flexion I found a box set of SCO UNIX in a dumpster once.

25 years ago.

I'm sorry. 😔

Mrs Mouse :verified: :queer:

@jima @miah @flexion
Worth EVERY PENNY you paid for it.

My best dumpster find was a vaxstation 3100

Jima :Compromise_bi_flag:

@MrsMouse @miah @flexion Best gear I can recall was a RamBus-era Pentium 4 system with a wrecked case.

Best-for-the-lulz was probably jima.us/wang/ 😇

Hal Pomeranz

@flexion @lisamelton My first Unix OS (SunOS 3.4) was delivered on 1600 bpi 9-track tape. Yes, I am old.

Dentaku (Thomas Renger)

@flexion Long time ago I installed HP/UX 7 from some QIC DC tape (6150?) to a hp9000 model 320.

Walt :ani_clubtwit:🚀

@flexion

Mine was tape, but it was Punched Paper Tape!

I'm getting too old.
🤖

Lsamuelson57

@astralcomputing @flexion

OS/8 FTW!

Arrival of the RK-05 was a gift from heaven.

CynBlogger™️

@flexion
Datapoint, 1976 OS on cassette, 128 K ram 5 mb hard drive — running an entire accounting system for a $20 million retail home center.

Aaron Sawdey, Ph.D.

@flexion It's not a real operating system unless it came on ROUND tapes 😁

✅ BSD 4.2 (1986)

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