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Eugen Rochko

One of the top frustrating things about having a growing audience is that you can not rely on any shared or historic knowledge. Everything has to be said with the assumption that the reader has not seen a single other word from you and knows nothing about you. Every thought or announcement has to inline all the fundamentals.

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@Gargron huh! That’s a good point you make there.. I’m gonna keep me to that. I’ve seen indeed examples of this going wrong with me the past time

Ash Furrow

@Gargron best you can do is document along the way and add lots of links to those docs. not everyone will read the links but at least you get to be justifiably snarky when people ask questions they could have found answers for on their own 🙃

Jelle

@Gargron It's better than Twitter though. There I have to assume my opponent (sigh) is in a current state of intoxication or mere unwillingness to comprehend my detailed explanation just because it's Twitter.

xk051 (ghost7)

@Gargron I don't know if this is the same problem or a related one, or what, but its sometimes difficult to onboard new users when the first think they are thrown into are the needs of industrial scale and enterprise systems.

travisfw

@Gargron don't you think that just a little in-group reference could serve to signal to listeners that there is a loyal group to be in? You want the loyal fans to stay loyal, too, and they need acknowledgement.

Alex O’Neal

@Gargron This is one of the reasons I resisted leaving previous social networks. After a while you collect people who know you, even if it's just a few, and they collect you. This allows for long-running jokes or asynchronous conversations over time, and even friendships.

On the other hand (so nice not to have to abbreviate), the new-to-you brings its own joy.

katimo

@Gargron I find this hilarious. I’ve been on the wrong side of InfoWars and Brazzers Inc and know more infamy than fame despite being “good to best” at politics and modeling — and a number of concerns. I find the right people every time. That said, I find that practice of positive self definition with every circumstance pays off. I’m
either that Almost-Brazzer that can stand more heat than Hilary Clinton or I’m a civically connected artist/political expert working on policy and leadership Ph.D.

Matt Mascarenhas

@Gargron Yep. This may be way out-of-scope for Mastodon, but it's an issue I want to try and address with a communication platform I'm planning. Two things I hope will help:

1. Referencing, with inline displaying of referenced messages / entities
2. Description of behaviour

In the spirit of point 1, my notes go into this a little more here: miblo.net/ppic_notes.html

mellifluousbox

@Gargron Excellent point and the fact that nowadays Slack + Discord is used for community building exacerbates this problem. Because the intuitive reply to what you're saying would be that "everything previously said" should be well documented and Discord just doesn't do that (I know this can only be said in theory as you're referring to totality of all your toots, etc. as well)

Jigme Datse

@Gargron Which sadly, ends up leading to putting off people who read it and have been around for a while, and go, "But why do you keep saying the same things... I wish you'd not repeat well known stuff."

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dmdickerson

Greetings, @Gargron (Eugen)!

I agree withe your perceptive comment.

Personally find that the 500 character limit adds to my challenge when I write, assuming a reader has never read anything I have posted.

Perhaps brevity is not one of my strengths! :shrug:

Cordially,

David Dickerson

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