@tomw It was fun at the beginning when you could do just the cool shit. But now there are too many hindrances to do anything. Simple things like hosting a web server for a few friends can't be done without having to use Let's Encrypt. You can't boot from a custom kernel without either signing it (whaaaaat?) or disabling secure boot. I could write an IRC or NNTP bot in an afternoon, good luck doing the same with Discord and Reddit. Everything is an enterprise owned platform. It's so dull...