Gregory's Serverhow anyone could look at the abject moral and political failures of tech giants in late stage capitalism and think jeez let’s let these guys factor this mess up into the stratosphere with zero regs is truly beyond me
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 @seachanger and where did the actual research for things like detecting cancer with AI go? That was making progress, not hearing much about it now because these guys are too busy eliminating artists. @kristinHenry @seachanger You can pop over on JAMA and type "Artificial Intelligence" to see the landscpe. It's also worth noting that *all* this work with sequence recognition and generation is applicable and has breakthroughs in variants optimized for DNA, RNA, and other long sequence medical applications. It's pretty easy to find a ton of really promising looking papers for various types of experiments, discussions and proposed diagnosis tooling being published consistently. @kristinHenry @seachanger this is what gets me with all the "capitalism is the only reason we have technological progress" - It isn't! It doesn't! We have an inner drive to explore, to create, to solve problems (may this drive be curiosit , hope or laziness!), and capitalism co-opt this and turns it into silly little products the serves only a small group of people, etc etc etc...  @pixie @kristinHenry @seachanger There is so much on this timeline before capitalism shows up, makes what you're saying kind of obvious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_historic_inventions  honestly we didn’t need an app for everything in 2010 and we don’t need AI for everything now. all we have ever needed was to tax the rich and take care of people  @seachanger@alaskan.social Especially since it isn't even really intelligence. It's a convincing-looking stochastic bullshit generator. @seachanger I just perused the replies and wow that was a lot. I thought hating GMOs was just a 2010s trend  @seachanger @seachanger You are right, don't care the haters. The World needs more people like you, more reconing and less speaking @seachanger We also need to put the basic bureaucratic tasks online in a way that is open and easy. You should not need to buy commercial software to file your taxes, for example.  @mike805 @seachanger wait a minute: in the US you have to PAY for a software to fulfill a legal/fiscal obligation?!?!?! what the actual fuck?!?!?! @cairobraga @seachanger Nah you don't have to pay. You can physically fill out the forms and mail them in, which I do. However, the government and the tax prep industry have openly conspired to prevent the government setting up a simple online filing system. There is instead supposed to be a "free option" from the commercial tax prep companies for low to middle income people. But they used all sorts of dark patterns to steer people away from those. @cairobraga @seachanger As an example, the leading tax prep software "free option" will happily take down all your information and set up to submit your taxes. Then when you click submit, it comes up and says, sorry, your income is too high to use the free option, enter your credit card number to pay for the software. You either pay, or start over and do your taxes manually. A lot of Americans file at the last minute, and fear the tax authorities like they were the Stasi, so this is effective. @cairobraga @mike805 @seachanger it really comes down to the power of money: the tax preparation industry has spent money since the 90s lobbying Congress not to authorize the IRS to offer that service. The well-funded government incompetence narrative supports that, too, since many Americans just assume those businesses are right when they say the government doesn’t have the skills to do that, and since most Americans don’t travel internationally few people know most other countries offer it.  @cairobraga @mike805 @seachanger The Tax Software lobby is strong and has killed every bill to eliminate the horrible torture we're forced to endure. @cairobraga @mike805 @seachanger for U.S. taxes, the IRS offers "Free Fillable Forms", an interactive web version of Form 1040 (and supplemental forms) that includes links to explanations and instructions. You can submit these forms to the IRS directly through their provided web site. This is free for all income levels and covers all tax situations. Many U.S. states also offer similar free-filing services online for their state taxes as well. @cairobraga @mike805 @seachanger However, U.S. tax law is so intentionally esoteric (specifically so that rich people don't have to pay taxes) that many people don't feel confident enough to fill out and submit Form 1040 themselves. It also doesn't help that tax-preparation services, such as #TurboTax and #HRBlock, spend significant amounts of money to openly #bribe politicians and civil servants in order to keep the tax code complicated. @zrb @cairobraga @seachanger I used those once. Lately I've been using the PDF fillable forms, printing them out and mailing them in. If I could just upload the filled PDF files I would not be on here complaining. @rskikuli @cairobraga @seachanger Rome took a while too. And like the Romans, America is paying off the barbarians. When the money runs out (or no longer buys anything) look out!  @cairobraga I am in the US and I have been filing my taxes online for free for as long as I can remember, but also I don’t have high income or complicated tax returns. I did have to pay to do my deceased brother’s tax return because he had a 1099 in there which is lame. So I guess this change would have saved me whatever I paid for that. But we have had free online filing for a lot of people for a long time. @cairobraga @seachanger @mike805 nutshell: greed. like fire and war, greed devours everything in the end. greed is never satisfied. @cairobraga @seachanger Here's another one. Lawyers use a private system called Lexis/Nexis to do legal research. They are more or less required to use this monopoly system because judges want the reference numbers (like hyperlinks) in case citations. If you don't use Lexis/Nexis the judge may well not read your argument, and you lose the case!  @mike805 @cairobraga @seachanger @the5thColumnist @cairobraga @seachanger They intentionally do not. They were sued because of dark patterns on the website to redirect you to the paid version. As well as dark patterns within the software itself to let you invest all the effort before demanding payment.  @seachanger Remember when we had /websites/ instead of apps? But apps make it so, so much easier to collect heaps of personal information.  @seachanger taxing the rich? Sounds like only an AI app could achieve that kind of disruption - just find a VC backed startup that will work on it for two years. Rest assured it will be a huge success, as it won't use blockchain!! 😂 😩  @seachanger In this respect, LLM chatbots are just the latest sizzle that they are selling. They've been selling "you don't need experts if you have our latest shiny tool" for decades. Maybe even since the 1970's @RandomDamage @seachanger The generative tech is pretty damn relevant for DNA, and that's why we're seeing a lot of alternative models outside the current Transformer architecture with much larger context windows. @Elucidating @seachanger yes, as a tool for experts to use. That's a completely different thing from the AI Madness that's in the public eye right now. @RandomDamage @seachanger You are a "gamer" so please don't tell me that you think THAT linear algebra is good to use for mental masturbation, but THIS linear algebra must never be enjoyed by normies. @Elucidating @seachanger yeah. Bite Me. The marketing pitch is that you can replace expertise with AI. That marketing pitch is bullshit. @RandomDamage @seachanger Do you believe that will happen this time? We weren't even discussing "the marketing pitch" but you've pivoted to this because it's an easy target. Yes, categorically marketing pitches suck and are misleading. We agree. Can we go back to the subject at hand? @Elucidating @seachanger I literally came in on that. The algorithms aren't a problem, and can be quite useful But they are being oversold for things they can't do, and that is a problem @RandomDamage @seachanger Well then I totally agree there. 1000%. I came in on "we didnt' ask for it" (scientists sure did) and specific examples of these technologies being used for causes named like climate change or medical science. These conversations tend to get super charged. @RandomDamage @seachanger We already have committed to an internet anyone can join, and this is FAR more immediate responsibility than access to the average generative model. |
AI should be like the James Webb telescope. put a team together and we will decide if your proposal is of sufficient social value to warrant use of the machine, otherwise sorry you can pay an illustrator a living wage to make art for the story