Gregory's Server"This wouldn't have happened on Linux" I say smugly, as I copy and paste a command from a 2008 forum post, three hours into trying to get my fucking WiFi working on Arch.
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I was *gonna* make a joke about this but honestly this post is funny enough that I don't have to. Good job!  @theresnotime @theresnotime People run Arch because they enjoy that sort of thing. Run a modern Ubuntu derivative and it's almost disappointing how little manual configuration things take anymore.  @alliecat @theresnotime until something is extremely buggy because of all the weird custom kernel patches or need unofficial proprietary ppas with things to make it work ok... But yeah, I agree, for most people it can just work nowadays and that is a good thing 😎 @vascorsd @alliecat @theresnotime but that's the thing - if something is buggy on other OS', you can't do sht about it. @alliecat @theresnotime I do run last stable Ubuntu on my home server; I still haven't figured out how to connect to WiFi. Thankfully, it's close to the router, and wired connection works reliably, but it isn't what I was going for. @theresnotime according to http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=9864a262 it literally HAS happened exactly the same on Linux, so...  @theresnotime Folks who use an OS where "curl | bash" is a standard installation pattern live in glass houses. ... but the 360° views are tough to beat!  @klausfiend Anyone who DOES that deserves to get hit by whatever vehicle is approaching their solar plexus at a high rate of speed. There is so much wrong with the pattern of "curl | bash" or worse yet "curl | sudo bash" that so many developers just seem to fail to grasp. @theresnotime Linux users who cares about updates screwing their machines uses immutable oses and/or cow filesystems.   @theresnotime This wouldn't have happened with Linux using only open source software, at least with major distros. Because there's plenty of testing for distro and kernel releases, and open source software is readily available to be tested with it. CrowdStrike is not open source. I don't think Arch is a good fit for a production server though. Or for an average user for that matter.  @theresnotime I hate hate hate the trend of `curl foo | bash` installation. Not sure how anyone ever thought that was a good idea.  @theresnotime Reminds me of looong ago (Redhat 5.2 long ago, on floppies) where it took me 2 weeks to get the commands in place to connect to the internet via ISDN-2... It did work after that! (This RHL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux, not the new RHEL Enterprise edition.)
(Is WIFI working now?) |
@theresnotime@fox.nexus this is a good thing