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★ Amy Star ★ :verified:​

me, 2020: "it's going to be really funny when Google discontinues search"

you, my followers: "lol amy you're so cynical"

google, 2024:

vincentschmalbach.com/google-n

35 comments
[Yaseenist] luna luna :verified_trans: :therian:

@AmyZenunim

google search console for my website: Problems detected! Pages crawled but not indexed. [does not elaborate for the pages I care about but repeatedly emails me about the fact that /about-me/ is denylisted in robots.txt]

BrazMogu (i.e. Bruno Guedes)

@arzi @AmyZenunim they should never have left, hyperlinking should've been the scaffolding of the web, and not deferring information gathering to one Big Tech

:blahaj: Why Not Zoidberg? 🦑

@AmyZenunim Wait if AI is the culprit, why do Google themselves push AI...

Colin Watson

@AmyZenunim No great love for Google, but since this article is an SEO site, I have to wonder whether it's just somebody whinging that their efforts to spam aren't working ...

badwebsites

@AmyZenunim They don't show page's caches either.
They only show me ADS now. And try to get me to do those stupid captcha IQ tests- "Click on all the kittens"

Gorgeous na Shock!

@AmyZenunim My stuff on retrocomputing and weird little programming projects and tutorials in obsolete programming languages and platforms doesn't show up, which is doubly annoying, because that means I'm missing that stuff from other people when I search.

It shows up on Duck Duck Go/Bing, tho. So at least there's that.

LisPi
@indigoparadox @AmyZenunim Guess it's back to webrings & web directories.

For those who weren't already doing that, anyway.
Kerr Avonsen

@indigoparadox @AmyZenunim I'm glad to see that Duck Duck Go hasn't dropped the ball (yet?) - they are my default search engine.

Gorgeous na Shock!

@kerravonsen @AmyZenunim They're great for some things but they seem to totally not index things like github or other source code repos. If I'm just not getting results on DDG (like *no results*, like for a function name usually), then I'll switch to startpage.com (which uses Google as a backend).

Kerr Avonsen

@indigoparadox @AmyZenunim What is the advantage of startpage.com over using Google directly?

Gorgeous na Shock!

@kerravonsen @AmyZenunim It's more or less habit, since I try to steer clear of Google Search in general. The selling point is privacy and no bubbling but for programming functions I guess that's not as much of an issue?

lake

@AmyZenunim@unstable.systems istg this company is soon going to discontinue itself and self-destruct lmao

ben 🇵🇸 ui

@AmyZenunim Are there any sources for this? The page linked doesn't cite anything.

Brian R. Pauw

@AmyZenunim that actually explains a bit why I’m no longer able to find entries from my long-running science/work-related weblog on Bing or Google.
P.s.: lookingatnothing.com/

Stefan Münz

@AmyZenunim Maybe we should go back again to 1993, building a web of trust based on manually edited link lists, but not allowing any of them to become as successfull as Yahoo back then :-)

Michael :donor:

@AmyZenunim I started a blog about a year ago, even when I specifically ask Google to index posts (In the Google Search Console thing), it won't. Some posts showed up a few months later, some still don't. It doesn't report any issues.

Maybe it's because I don't use cookies, have no ads, try to be a11y friendly, and only serve minimal static HTML. This might be too human-friendly for Google to consider for their dogsh*t index. At least it shows up on Kagi 🤷‍♂️

Jumile

@AmyZenunim We're heading back to the era of Yahoo Directories and blog circles, aren't we. 😬

LiquidParasyte

@AmyZenunim y'know what? Good. Less visibility to scrapers is welcome at this point.

Claire :verifiedbi::hatched_trans_egg:

@AmyZenunim@unstable.systems is this why the rainverse wiki is doing so pporly at even being indexed?

i expected an seo fight against fandom, sure, but i didn't expect the wiki being barely looked at

StaringAtClouds

@AmyZenunim Why index your site & let you get ad revenue when they can slurp it all into their LLM AI & regurgitate it incorrectly on demand, keeping all the ad revenue for themselves?

hell \ Rebekah Hellberg

@AmyZenunim my robots.txt literally be like 🤷‍♀️:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /*/

Abbey Jane 🇪🇺🏳️‍🌈 she/her

@AmyZenunim

As @staringatclouds says, this wouldn't mean #google stopped with the crawling or the search business. It's just they are going to appropriate your content via their LLM and serve it w/o attribution.*

(Read: steal your work / ehm *intellectual property* ehm, and plagiarize it) Because the old colonial doctrine "can't profit without stealing" has apparently come full circle.
Same as #Microsoft does via #github with code, #Amazon with physical products and #AWS with "cloud" data.

Saphire Lattice

@AmyZenunim @robinsyl I would like to highlight that the author is a "SEO expert and AI engineer", and provides zero citation other than "trust me bro". I really, really don’t trust this :P

Polychrome :clockworkheart:
@AmyZenunim so Google is embracing the original curated Yahoo! approach.
:pcpleroma:​ :blobcat:
Abimelex ✔️

@AmyZenunim it's the totally right approach to counter the AI genrated web content bs and people using chatGPT instead of google. But it should be it's own product. So you as a user decide if you want to search the entire web or only quality content.

enshroudedshrew

@AmyZenunim so, the more freaking nonsensical, fake news-ish, and simply insane stuff people produce the higher the uniqueness rating will be, and so their stuff will be listed?
Sounds like “idiocracy internet version” is coming

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