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Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

A few new things to check out in TestFlight for our beta testers. The iOS/iPadOS TestFlight update is out now. Still waiting for Apple to approve the version for Mac (hopefully by the end of the day).

- Support for Mastodon’s new author bylines for enabled accounts. (This feature requires your server to be running Mastodon 4.3 which is currently in beta).
- Updated URL/OpenGraph Cards to provide more content.
- Added Apple’s language translation to iOS/iPadOS. (Currently no support for Mac Catalyst apps)
- Added the ability to translate Alt Text by holding down on the Alt Text and choosing Translate (iOS/iPadOS)
- Filtered Keywords applied to Lists now also get filtered out of Hashtag Lists.
- Active account removed from Account Select Menu to reduce confusion and clutter.
- Fixed a crasher when hitting the compose button while in a hashtag list.
- Fixed the issue when trying to reach some servers that use WEB_DOMAIN.
Screenshot of Ivory showing 2 posts from @macstories@macstories.net with OpenGraph Cards showing the updated layout and new byline feature in the upcoming Mastodon 4.3.
Screenshot of Ivory showing the new Apple Translate sheet.
A screenshot of a media preview in Ivory with the option to translate ALT text when holding down on it.
51 comments
zmknox

@ivory I think I get why this is happening with images (size is the max of the tallest image, which isn't this one), but it looks awfully strange and felt like a bug to me (on latest TestFlight)

(Also: I personally find the lack of my current account in the switcher _more_ confusing, not less)

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@zmk That's a tradeoff we are willing to make. Feels weird at first, but you get used to it. We think it's much better than the tiny images we displayed before when the post detail view should be showing them larger.

Also not seeing your current account is also probably just one of those changes that feel weird because it’s new and different. We tend to run these changes our devices for at least a week to get over that feeling before we decide if it's a good change or not.

A. Lee Bennett Jr.

@ivory New share sheet is vastly improved. Kudos.

Question: when sharing from something like Flickr, is it possible to automatically pull the text from Flickr’s title field into the main text area to become the toot? Or would Flickr have to do something to make this work?

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@leebennett We might be able to make it an option in the future, but honestly want to keep things as simple as possible. That title is already displayed in the URL card so not sure why it needs to be repeated again?

A. Lee Bennett Jr.

@ivory Maybe coz I add more info? It doesn’t show the title for me. Just the raw link and attaching a copy of the photo to the toot.

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@leebennett Ah interesting. Flickr seems to share different content depending on if you use the website or their app. When using their app, they share an image and a URL and media always takes priority for displaying a preview over a URL card. We never show both.

A. Lee Bennett Jr.

@ivory Good observation. I almost always use the app and actually prefer that behavior. Auto-pulling Title contents to become the toot would just make the workflow a bit easier by not having to copy the Title text and paste it into the share sheet.

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@leebennett Yea. Just have to think about that as there are many scenarios where it's just duplicating what's already in the OpenGraph card. There are some strange scenarios like the Flickr app where this design kind of fails. 😅

Arilin Thorferra :macrofur:

@ivory does the content warning editing page still say "this design is temporary"? :)

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@arilin Yes because it still is. 😅 But yea we should probably remove that text for now. Thanks for the reminder.

Arilin Thorferra :macrofur:

@ivory Mostly just teasing. I've never been looking at Ivory and thinking "everything is great but that content warning page!" :) (Although I'm curious what you'll eventually come up with.)

Luke Dorny

@ivory this is amazing. Great updates.

I’d love to hear more about strategies you’ve used or prefer when it comes to open graph data for previews.

Saurabh Wanivadekar

@ivory ooh I sorely missed the translate feature! Thank you!

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@AwkwardChips It's always been there. We just get to use Apple's translate feature now. 🙂

Gianguido

@ivory speaking of beta, is this a bug? I’m on the latest version of Ivory stable, taken from App Store.

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@gsora Nope. View is set for the tallest media so images can be viewed at a good size vs portrait images being extremely small in the past.

Gianguido

@ivory ok! I somehow expected it to dynamically resize, but just thinking about how to AutoLayout something like that gives me nightmares. Thank you!

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@gsora Yea something about that felt weird too and would probably cause other issues. The way it is now does feel strange at first, but you do get used to it over time. We think it works great and is an improvement over what we had before.

wakest ⁂

@ivory hey @nileane your featured in the screenshot :)

Alt :vivaldi_blue:

@ivory with this beta, is it no longer possible to translate posts with my server’s translation service?

Having the ability to use Apple’s translation service is great, but my problem with only having this one option is that there’s a bunch of languages that I can no longer translate from Ivory.

Apple’s translation service only allows you to translate a select few languages (19 to be precise). Meanwhile, my server’s translation service allows translating a vastly larger amount of languages (over 80).

As an example, here are some languages I’ve encountered that my server’s translation service can translate, but Apple’s translation service cannot: Catalan, Czech, Danish, Islandic, Norwegian, Swedish.

@ivory with this beta, is it no longer possible to translate posts with my server’s translation service?

Having the ability to use Apple’s translation service is great, but my problem with only having this one option is that there’s a bunch of languages that I can no longer translate from Ivory.

Apple’s translation service only allows you to translate a select few languages (19 to be precise). Meanwhile, my server’s translation service allows translating a vastly larger amount of languages (over 80).

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@AltCode We will most likely have an option, but wanted to get everyone using this in the beta and then providing feedback (like you have). 🙂 Appreciate your thoughts.

theBurn

@ivory @AltCode
I have additional feedback: the result and the fluency of the Apple translation is much worse compared to the previous output. English to German in my case… really appreciate the switch ;)

Jay

@ivory Quick turnaround on author bylines! Thanks!

feral wife material :neofox_nom_blob_nervous:

@ivory is audio attachment support in the works? it’s a little annoying to have to miss out on them…

Elie 🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈 (He/Him)

@ivory sooo happy about the translation feature!! Thanks! 🙏🏼

Aaron Sawdey, Ph.D.

@ivory Translate alt-text would be really nice, thank you.

Aaron Sawdey, Ph.D.

@ivory Yes, that's what I was referring to ... thank you for adding it! I have encountered that situation a number of times where what I really needed a translation of was the alt-text, not the actual post.

Athavariel

@ivory Fantastic and thank you. 👏👏👏

jake (he/him) 🇵🇸

@ivory i wish apple would remove the testflight beta tester limit

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@ivory any update on filtering home, lists & hashtag timelines to specific languages only?

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@jglypt That's not going to be for a bit. We have a bunch of things already planned to work on for the next few months at least.

kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:

@ivory Really love the translate feature. So smooth! 👍

RubenMLL

@ivory Any chance of an invite to TestFlight? I've been waiting a post for new beta testers for a while.

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@RubenMLL We haven't needed to add any new users just yet.

RubenMLL

@ivory It's a shame for curious people, like me, who want to try the new Ivory updates before they go out to everyone.

But I guess it's just a matter of time.

mkb

@ivory I’m delighted to learn you have a new version in the works. Here’s hoping the beta yields good info.

vaempyr

@ivory could you please let me know if you need more iOS beta testers?

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@vaempyr You’ll have to just keep an eye out for a post when we link to openings.

kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:

@ivory Any chance we will get additional fonts? Especially a font where a lower case L looks like an L instead of an I.

Some apps on iOS use the font "Seravek" which I really enjoy. It's also available in Reader Mode in Safari.

Maybe this would be an option for better readability?

Ivory by Tapbots :emoji_wink:

@kaiserkiwi We can put that on our list to look at and see how it goes. The answer is usually no, but since that's a system font, it's definitely a possibility. 🙂

kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:

@ivory That's pretty much the response I've expected. Maybe a bit more positive as I thought. 😊

Thank you for considering it! 💚

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