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demize

@Eramdam @mcc having given it a quick read I think I agree with andi here more than I did before I read the explainer

like... I guess the intentions are good? but they're coming from a position of "we need to make the web more useful to advertisers" and that's an inherently bad position, and any intentions you have that come from it are also inherently bad, ultimately

we need to stop capitulating to advertisers and investors. the stance mozilla seems to have taken as late, of "we need to show everyone else how this can be done responsibly, because they're doing it irresponsibly" is one I reject outright and this solution only makes sense if you accept that stance

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damien

@demize @mcc for clarity i wasn't saying andi is wrong. Just adding onto the thread for ppl who might have found that interesting + I feel the explainer is more technical than whatever copy Mozilla uses in their support documentation.

damien replied to damien

@demize @mcc *personally* don't care much, i disabled the feature but i have a pihole/ublock set up so whatever 'non-private' tracking may happen in a result of that is probably not very useful to anybody (and i wouldnt see the ads fed off said tracking lol)

That said, even despite all that I'll stick to Firefox for a while because, like, I'm concerned about the engine homogeneity and sadly Firefox is basically my only option.

Safari on macOS could be an option but I need Windows support and the extensions story still sucks there if you want niche stuff.

I might change my tune when/if Firefox becomes less customisable than it is and "it's not Blink/WebKit" is the only argument but thankfully we're not there yet.

And I guess I'm also married to Tab Containers, every other browser's really wants me to use whole-ass profiles and that's just overkill and clunky imo lol

@demize @mcc *personally* don't care much, i disabled the feature but i have a pihole/ublock set up so whatever 'non-private' tracking may happen in a result of that is probably not very useful to anybody (and i wouldnt see the ads fed off said tracking lol)

That said, even despite all that I'll stick to Firefox for a while because, like, I'm concerned about the engine homogeneity and sadly Firefox is basically my only option.

demize replied to damien

@Eramdam @mcc yeah. I’m not thrilled with Mozilla here but I still think they’re the only good option that’s not just Chromium wearing a hat, and Google is throwing their weight around threatening even worse stuff with Chrome :/

Fazal Majid replied to damien

@Eramdam @demize @mcc no, this won’t protect you because in the incredibly deceptively named “privacy sandbox”, your browser itself becomes the ad network that tracks your interests and matches them against ads, no external server needed, and not something your firewall can protect against.

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