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Steve

@ramsey
I've seen a lot of people make an argument like this. As if people are only ever supposed to ask for things they're owed.

I think what you mean is that someone doesn't have the right to *Demand* something that isn't owed to them.

It's an important distinction to make.

3 July at 0:42 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.communick.com
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Ben Ramsey

@steve I don’t think I said anything about not having the right to *ask* for something you are or are not owed. I only said they don’t owe you a reason.

3 July at 0:45 | Open on phpc.social
M. Grégoire

@ramsey @steve
I don't think an explanation is "owed" either; but I think it shows grace to give a reason before blocking someone.

3 July at 1:32 | Open on cosocial.ca
Ben Ramsey

@mpjgregoire @steve I completely disagree. Often, I want to block someone without them knowing I blocked them. How is it graceful to tell someone I’m going to block them, especially if they’re causing me any distress (whether knowing or unknowingly)?

3 July at 2:09 | Open on phpc.social
Steve

@ramsey @mpjgregoire
You're right, sometimes it's understandable, even reasonable to be disgraceful. But I'm not sure that makes it right.

Honestly I don't think I understand the blocking people mindset. It doesn't matter how wrong someone is, or how hurtful their words may be, I can't see myself ever blocking anyone.

I have blocked spam bots now and again. But their just bots, not people. I really don't like myself when I'm disrespectful to people; Even when they're far worse to me.

@ramsey @mpjgregoire
You're right, sometimes it's understandable, even reasonable to be disgraceful. But I'm not sure that makes it right.

Honestly I don't think I understand the blocking people mindset. It doesn't matter how wrong someone is, or how hurtful their words may be, I can't see myself ever blocking anyone.

3 July at 2:41 | Open on mastodon.communick.com
Ben Ramsey

@steve @mpjgregoire How is it disrespectful to block someone? If someone causes you any form of distress, block them. Life’s too short, and not everyone deserves your attention.

3 July at 2:50 | Open on phpc.social
M. Grégoire

@ramsey
"Leave people alone when they tell you to quit it. Blocked."
"Your political opinions are appalling. Blocked."
"Stop talking about subjects you know nothing about. Blocked."

Wouldn't you rather receive such a message than a silent block? If you'd prefer such a message from another person, then wouldn't it be gracious of you to send a similar message in the appropriate circumstances?

@steve

@ramsey
"Leave people alone when they tell you to quit it. Blocked."
"Your political opinions are appalling. Blocked."
"Stop talking about subjects you know nothing about. Blocked."

Wouldn't you rather receive such a message than a silent block? If you'd prefer such a message from another person, then wouldn't it be gracious of you to send a similar message in the appropriate circumstances?

3 July at 3:10 | Open on cosocial.ca
Ben Ramsey

@mpjgregoire @steve It does not matter to me if someone chooses to block me for any reason. Most of the time, I would probably never notice.

3 July at 3:54 | Open on phpc.social
M. Grégoire

@ramsey @steve
I just had someone block me and tell his 2000 followers to block me as well (it was regarding #uspol, mastodon.world/@tomiahonen/112 ).

It doesn't bother me that I was blocked and I appreciate his telling me why — though I don't think I wrote anything unreasonable or impolite in this case.

3 July at 16:44 | Open on cosocial.ca
Steve

@ramsey @mpjgregoire

Ghosting someone is disrespectful.
Breaking up with them is not.

It's not the blocking.
It's the leaving them wondering, confused; That's disrespectful.

It very literally adds insult, to injury.

Sometimes there may be reasons to insult.
But they're almost always petty.

I think we should try to avoid pettiness.

3 July at 3:48 | Open on mastodon.communick.com
Ben Ramsey

@steve @mpjgregoire I’m not talking about people who are in a relationship. I’m talking about strangers online.

3 July at 3:52 | Open on phpc.social
Steve

@ramsey @mpjgregoire

Whatever the relationship, the behavior is the same.
I don't think being strangers excuses behavior.

And I didn't mean to imply the reason I don't block is out of respect. I can see how you thought that, and apologize for the mid understanding. The reason I don't block, is my belief that nothing was ever fixed with less information.

3 July at 4:12 | Open on mastodon.communick.com
M. Grégoire

@steve
No, there are definitely times it's right to block. May you be lucky enough not to experience them.

@ramsey

3 July at 4:31 | Open on cosocial.ca
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