Gregory's Server@hannu_ikonen @clive
AKA Shell Shock
It would be interesting to model and animate the damage as the wave travels through the interfaces between the different densities and elasticities of brain tissue.
Not too dis-similar to RF, seismic and optical wave analysis.
It would probably only take me about ten years these days.
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 @violetmadder @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive less like that - because we humans are surrounded by loud sounds for most of our existance as a species... I'd rather suspect something like #Sonar exposure instead cuz that shit can turn peoples brains into tomato soup... @kkarhan @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive The only common thing I can think of in nature that causes actual explosive shockwaves, is lightning. Thunder is about as loud as a gunshot, but nobody is holding it at arms' length on full auto. @violetmadder @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive yes and no. Cuz OFC there's ear protection and if it was vibrations and just normal harsh noise there would've been sufficient samples before... I'd still bet it's #Sonar given that even remotely hearing one is considered a "GTFO the water - NOW!" thing in terms of diving because that sonar can turn one's brain into Bolognese Sauce before the sonar operators even realize they're close to a diving spot...  @kkarhan @violetmadder @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive If sonar does that to people, it must be hurting whales too. @kkarhan @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive Firearms are not "normal harsh noise", and earplugs won't protect your brain. The shockwave is a concussive blast that travels through the whole body in an abrupt strike. Sonar is a whole other separate issue. @violetmadder @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive I disagree since then we'd see the same issue with #Jackhammers and other pneumatic powertools... Ear protection works because you ain't firing the gun in an uncompressable medium (i.e. water)... With sonar the person is encased in an uncompressable medium and thus the energy is undampenable... @kkarhan  @violetmadder @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive Ya don’t say? Seriously I met Stephen Paddock the Vegas shooter it was all about gambling losses - his words, they were cheating, long story. We talked about gambling and odds and I largely forgot about his anger - until I happened across a comment from someone else with the same basic circumstances - except they talked about guns. Circumstantially provable. Nobody at the FBI or Las Vegas law enforcement or MGM Resorts wanted to acknowledge it. @violetmadder @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive the article seems to imply its more about mortar and artillery blasts then small arms. being around a gun going off is very different then being around a piece of field artillery  @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive @violetmadder@kolektiva.social "Shell shock" was the first world war era term for what today we call PTSD. Medical terminology evolves over time! (Cf. the US Supreme Court saying "abortion didn't happen in the 18th century b/c newspapers didn't mention it". Well no shit, but there were a *lot* of medicines for "regulating the courses" i.e. restarting a stopped menstrual cycle.)  @cstross @clive @hannu_ikonen @zl2tod Although it is interesting to wonder how much of an influence this sort of damage had in making things worse on top of that.
@cstross @hannu_ikonen @clive  @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive @violetmadder @datenwolf @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive @violetmadder Non Newtonian? Don't shatter my thinking oobleck! @andygates @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive @violetmadder Actually it's more like gelatinous ketchup. Behaves like jelly if undisturbed, but liquefies non-homogeneously under stress. @datenwolf @andygates @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive @violetmadder Well I feel a lot worse about my thinking Heinz now @ciggysmokebringer @datenwolf @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive @violetmadder Won't be tapping the bottle without complicated thoughts! @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive @violetmadder Here's the latest publication from our group doing the elastography research: https://doi.org/10.1364/BOE.510020  @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive @violetmadder I was thinking shellshock too but I don't think that's the same at all. That's more extreme trauma from thinking you're going to die any second now over a long period of time
 @zl2tod  @DelilahTech @zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @violetmadder Precisely And as several folks here have noted, despite being a very dated term it's surprisingly accurate here -- these are literally physical brain injuries caused by shock waves from shells |
@zl2tod @hannu_ikonen @clive
Seriously!
Wow, just wow... This REALLY does not bode well, for anyone who's been shooting a whole lot of guns and the people around them.