@remenca @sjuvonen @tinker “how do I improve my life?”...

@remenca @sjuvonen @tinker
“how do I improve my life?” “Escape poverty.”
“Uh, ok, how do I do that?” “Get more money.”

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We remove the rich people, by moving to a less predatory capitalism. Alright.
How do we move to a less predatory capitalism? It might seem like I’m being pedantic, but people need clear, distinct tasks before they can track progress towards a goal.

I don’t need micromanaging bs about 2:43 pm next Thursday, but “big goal” from “chunks of that goal” from “portioned out segments of those chunks” go a long way towards engaging people with making it happen. Even destructive criticism is still helpful as it at least highlights a problem (badly) in how others will perceive it.

Like 21 June at 18:26 | Wall-to-wall | Open on lgbtqia.space

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Remença replied to Mx

@MxVerda @sjuvonen @tinker

I think that your demands of greater clarity are fair, but replacing capitalism with something else is something very complicated, so my answer will be unavoidably incomplete and flawed.

Removing the rich people is something that has been attempted in the past and in many occasions succeeded. The secret I'd say is to have at least part of the military in your side. 1917 revolution, Paris commune, Burkina Faso, etc...all share this trait.

22 June at 8:02 | Open on mastodont.cat

Remença replied to Remença

@MxVerda @sjuvonen @tinker

The tricky part seems to be twofold. First you need to avoid other powers that are friendly to the rich you have removed that will try do destroy you. This has also happened in failed revolutions like in Germany, Spain or the rest of the springtime of peoples. We could even consider the Napoleonic wars against the French revolution an instance of this. The only solution I see to this is again having the support of the military.

22 June at 8:12 | Open on mastodont.cat

Remença replied to Remença

@MxVerda @sjuvonen @tinker

Finally, if you have not been destroyed by your capitalist enemies, the only problem is how to avoid becoming a capitalist yourself after you gain power. This is what in my understanding led to the USSR demise with the apparition of the Nomenklatura or the capitalist "communism" from China. Still, it can be argued that at least those systems ended being softer versions of capitalism that the ones that replaced, so it was not all in vain, but still.

22 June at 8:15 | Open on mastodont.cat

Remença replied to Remença

@MxVerda @sjuvonen @tinker

Applying this to the current situation I think that a more or less clear picture arises. The military is split in two parts, one is the military industrial complex and the other is the cannon fodder that are extremely brainwashed with maga stuff in the bottom. Some years ago the brainwashing worked because USA was the most advanced country, but this seems to be ending due to the climate change, resource depletion and the apparition of emerging powers like the brics.

22 June at 8:21 | Open on mastodont.cat

Remença replied to Remença

@MxVerda @sjuvonen @tinker

So far they have managed to keep the cannon fodder fooled by blaming minorities and woke people for everything. But this will not work forever, simply because the real causes of the American decline are not those, and they will run out of minorities to blame. What will happen when this happens and the bottom military realize they have been tricked? I don't know, but it could open an opportunity like the Kornilov affair where the military change sides.

22 June at 8:31 | Open on mastodont.cat

Remença replied to Remença

@MxVerda @sjuvonen @tinker

So in my opinion, considering how powerful the propaganda machine is, the only thing we can do is just wait until the whole thing comes breaking down. And try to educate all the maga bigots - especially the ones in the army - until they realize they are just poor proletariat like us. Other than that I don't know.

It is said Lenin once said that any society is only two missed meals from revolution. We are getting there.

22 June at 8:35 | Open on mastodont.cat

Mx Verda replied to Remença

@remenca @sjuvonen @tinker I will say that as a military brat, I think you’re vastly underestimating the massive contingent of nerds and other people who are / could be aware but need health insurance etc. Can’t evaluate the other stuff though

22 June at 8:49 | Open on lgbtqia.space

Remença replied to Mx

@MxVerda @sjuvonen @tinker

I have to say that as catalan living in Spain, where we have a public system that is in shambles compared to 20 years ago, I am always surprised at the situation in USA. The declining life expectancy, the bloated hospital bills, the whole mess with COVID and the masks. It is outlandish. You have my sympathy and support.

22 June at 10:08 | Open on mastodont.cat