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Profoundly Nerdy

@Strandjunker Why and for what purpose? What would the final result look like?

12 June at 20:27 | Wall-to-wall | Open on bitbang.social
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@profoundlynerdy let me ask you something.

What's more valuable, human rights or property rights?

12 June at 20:46 | Open on hachyderm.io
Profoundly Nerdy

@alexhammy Before I answer, may I ask how one is at odds with the other?

12 June at 20:55 | Open on bitbang.social
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@profoundlynerdy "I don't acknowledge a difference between the two" is totally a valid answer

12 June at 21:36 | Open on hachyderm.io
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@profoundlynerdy @alexhammy

Capitalism creates artificial stratification that corrupts democracies and republics; enabling batshit insane policies like money is speech and lies are protected speech. Human rights such as home ownership, decent medical care, decent employment and freedom from corporate sociopaths are self evidently more important than the right of wealth dragons to pile unlimited hoarda and indeed are self evidently so.

The counter question is which property right except home ownership could possibly counter any human right whatsoever?

@profoundlynerdy @alexhammy

Capitalism creates artificial stratification that corrupts democracies and republics; enabling batshit insane policies like money is speech and lies are protected speech. Human rights such as home ownership, decent medical care, decent employment and freedom from corporate sociopaths are self evidently more important than the right of wealth dragons to pile unlimited hoarda and indeed are self evidently so.

12 June at 21:36 | Open on kolektiva.social
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@HarbingerOfSalem @profoundlynerdy if I own a piece a bread and someone who is at the brink of death from starvation steals it from me, were my rights violated or do I have a right to hoard bread at all?

12 June at 21:38 | Open on hachyderm.io
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@alexhammy @profoundlynerdy

Unless the theft harms equally starving children likely as not.

12 June at 21:39 | Open on kolektiva.social
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@HarbingerOfSalem @profoundlynerdy I would say if kids are also starving all around me I definitely don't have a right to hoard bread.

12 June at 21:41 | Open on hachyderm.io
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@profoundlynerdy @Strandjunker The final result is always going to be - at some point - that humans (as a group) stop existing, for one or more of many possible reasons. While we wait for that to happen, we can tend to a) maximise happiness or b) exploit the many to enrich the few. I'm tired of b), I'd like to try a), that's all.

12 June at 21:09 | Open on mastodonapp.uk
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