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@cybertailor @ShadowJonathan censorship and sanctions are two separate things, mozilla is an American company bound by their laws. When Russia decides to cause ~1million combined deaths with the most pointless war of our lifetime, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that certain things get blocked, as that is the point of said sanctions. They legally have no choice but comply here, your anger is wholly misdirected. 13 comments
 @iamada what's more likely is that Mozilla received a letter from Roskomnadzor saying something like "remove these extensions or else we block the whole addons.mozilla.org". In this case, Mozilla followed the law, but it was Russian law banning censorship circumvention technologies. @cybertailor you're saying that an American company subject to American law, based in America is more likely to bend over backwards for Russia, than to follow the American law? ...buddy... c'mon... It's fair to be upset if it messes with your workflow, but maybe take a break and reread this in a few hours. @iamada it's good old blackmailing. Websites are given a choice: either they remove content in question themselves, or the entire website becomes banned in Russia, as HTTPS requests only reveal domain
Russia doesn't decide anything, Putin does. And how exactly does it help to stop the war, if a website decides to block visitors from Russia?
Are you asking how sanctions work? If so, and in this case; by blocking tools to circumvent said sanctions, in order to increases pressure on the Russian people by removing luxuries like access to the global market and its products and services (like Facebook) @iamada this doesn't answer why the same extensions were not removed by Google, of all things. And "pressure on the Russian" people only causes frustration directed to the ones who imposed such restrictions. By the way, Facebook was blocked by Russia, it has nothing to do with sanctions.  @iamada this tool is to circumvent Russian state censorship, not sanctions. @iamada also, sanctions like the ones imposed on Russia are designed to pressure the war economy and the ruling class, not "the people"  Aha, Putin lays coordinates of every target, pulls every trigger and personally rapes every woman on this war. 0 days since somebody tried to sell us this old funny story. Blocking visitors from Russia means excluding population heavily indoctrinated by Russian propaganda from normal resources. Anyway it is a good idea to figure out why Mozilla did that. There could be different and very surprising answers. 1. All political decisions are made by Putin, and armed forces implement his will. 2. Russian people generally do not believe TV propaganda and do not have any opinion at all. That's what sociologists say. @cybertailor @iamada "Russian people (...) do not have any opinion at all" "That's what sociologists say" |
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@iamada you just completely missed the point :blobcatgooglyholdingitsheadinitshands:
Take, for example, "www.facebook.com". The Russian government can't control it, so it orders ISPs to block it entirely.
There are browser extensions to circumvent website bans by using proxies and/or anti-DPI measures, so people using such extensions can access "www.facebook.com" again.
Mozilla, without any notice, makes such extensions (and only them!) unavailable in Russia.
It's more likely that Mozilla did it to comply with Russian laws.
@iamada you just completely missed the point :blobcatgooglyholdingitsheadinitshands:
Take, for example, "www.facebook.com". The Russian government can't control it, so it orders ISPs to block it entirely.
There are browser extensions to circumvent website bans by using proxies and/or anti-DPI measures, so people using such extensions can access "www.facebook.com" again.