@Shrigglepuss @spacehobo and people are pushed into the wring compromises because they dont know better. The quest for thinner, cheaper laptops has led to compromises across cases, keyboards, thermal management, even using glue instead of screws. So people get conditioned to thinking laptops need to be replaced every few years. My main portable is my x230 from 2012 withmaxed out ram, screen and keyboard upgrades. Does everything i need aside from slowness on a few sites here and there.