@mhoye @spencer I know that for our family, who bought a used model S a buncha years ago, we'd never buy from Tesla again even if Musk wasn't giving us political reasons for that decision. They treat their cars like they're cell phones: You're meant to regularly upgrade or they slowly get shittier and shittier. And because they act like a tech company, rather than a car company, a lot of parts of the car (windows, screen, dashboard, door handles, speedometer console, etc) is just super badly made.

We're almost certainly looking at a VW EV for our next vehicle.