@mhoye The companies with winning products are growing and those without... aren't. Chevy had a good product in the Bolt and they haven't replaced it. VW's id4 isn't that competitive (I own one, love it, but it's too $$$). Tesla is selling you the same car from 8 years ago, it's not bad but it's not nearly as competitive now as it used to be. Plus Elon is a dbag.