@mmalc @mhoye Yeah I really don’t think we disagree; I’m not saying that automakers were somehow ideally strategic here, they were not, they are very bad at this like every company is bad at strategy; just saying that once they did get electrics out Tesla had no chance.

Of course Tesla deserves credit; but they also deserve blame for treating car manufacturing like a marketing gimmick and throwing away decades of knowledge on how to do it well, and that is their undoing. Now that there’s competition I honestly believe they have no chance, and their early credit is irrelevant to that.