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Jorge Castro

@luis_in_brief Awww man I thought you were going to ask something easy like a link to my governance docs.

I'll be honest with you. The best bit of marketing we've ever done is to distance ourselves away from as many linux things as possible. I don't really actively market to "normal people" to do it themselves.

Like, I would never tell my dad "hey go try bluefin", that's ridiculous. But I would certainly gift him a laptop with it on it already since all he uses is a browser.

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Jorge Castro

@luis_in_brief So it's more for the person who is stuck being their family's IT person, and would know enough to be able to put the end user in the best possible situation to succeed.

So it's more of a "DIY, but it's a managed experience".

So I spend way more time on working with #Framework than trying to funnel in new users.

And there's also a realistic reason, that takes a ton of effort and money to do right.

Jorge Castro

@luis_in_brief But the infurating thing about the kind of #linux users that Jill is talking about is that many of them who are just high on the cope-ium.

I routinely tell new people who experience that behavior: Don't take technical advice from people who think that 4% market share in 30 years is "just fine, you're the idiot."

Jorge Castro

@luis_in_brief Also having been involved in a big push during the golden age of linux desktop hope-ium ... It needs to be a total package.

A hardware vendor with a solid OS together, trying to be perfect on every piece of hardware hasn't led to a lot of progress.

Jorge Castro

@luis_in_brief "Tell your friend to go buy a framework and it'll come with bluefin and it'll be great" is the exact thing I want.

I dunno man, even some of the most skeptical people in cloud native are like, buying Frameworks.

Maybe now's the time to give the whole thing another shot?

Jorge Castro

@luis_in_brief On the community thing: I model it after CNCF projects, we've got our structures in place. We're product focused, we kind of strive to remove half the crap that users need to complain about anyway.

I'm proud of how it's working out so far, but like also we're only ever going to be a hot rodding community.

I don't think we'll ever fix the elitist Linux culture, which why we kind of don't identify with it. Hope that makes sense!

Luis Villa

@jorge totally makes sense! and maybe I'll try futzing enough with Framework support to unbrick mine 😬

Jorge Castro replied to Luis

@luis_in_brief Ping support, Matt is awesome! (Also I need more guinea pigs!

And also your feedback on how I ship GNOME would mean the world to me. 😃

razze

@jorge @luis_in_brief

> I dunno man, even some of the most skeptical people in cloud native are like, buying Frameworks.

I don't get that part. I would like to understand it. Talk to me like I'm five? :)

Jorge Castro

@razze @luis_in_brief I've noticed more Framework laptops at conferences.

Before it was a sea of macs and a handful of thinkpads. Now it's a handful of Frameworks. 😀 My thought is that there's room for Linux desktops to succeed for developers who want an alternative to a mac.

razze replied to Jorge

@jorge @luis_in_brief I'm kinda in that picture, still on a ThinkPad though. Git on windows was just excruciating slow.

Senil :maitai:

@jorge @luis_in_brief Hi I literally looked at Bluefin (and the adjacent projects) because of this whole thing and honestly? Stuff like this is probably going to be what'll get me to actually try Linux as a daily OS, outside of self hosting use cases.

I need to check some stuff out, see what works and what doesn't (and what I can tweak, I'm no stranger to terminals), but "this is meant to be as complete a package as possible, and as unobtrusive as possible" is 90% of what I'm after. I feel like a lot more people want that kind of setup. "It Just Works" needs to be the goal for mass adoption. At least, compared to the fiddling I see some people go through just to get one small thing set up.

I'll probably yeet one of these onto my old laptop and see if I like it and how well it works. Who knows, maybe I'll stick with it whenever I replace my meh chrome OS tablet and get something similar but better.

It might even power my dumb Wii U gamepad mod, if that ever happens. Framework powered, of course!

@jorge @luis_in_brief Hi I literally looked at Bluefin (and the adjacent projects) because of this whole thing and honestly? Stuff like this is probably going to be what'll get me to actually try Linux as a daily OS, outside of self hosting use cases.

I need to check some stuff out, see what works and what doesn't (and what I can tweak, I'm no stranger to terminals), but "this is meant to be as complete a package as possible, and as unobtrusive as possible" is 90% of what I'm after. I feel like a lot more people

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