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Andy

@ShadowJonathan multiple problems:

* hosting costs money
* a domain costs money
* learning HTML takes time that people don't have that quickly want something nice

that's why they opt for the easy options.

we can't do much more than "advertise" and talk about making your own sites again.

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@pixel the first two problems are solvable, and the latter is just learning things

ease of access to making HTML websites is a thing too, but that's a different problem

but you cant solve that, or it wont get solved, if there's no incentive to make HTML easily hostable

Andy

@ShadowJonathan define solvable?

current society will to a degree opt for the free option even if it comes with some inconveniences

and the best free options would be subdomains etc.

(I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I am full on your side btw)

Mx Verda

@pixel @ShadowJonathan I can do the third part but I don’t even know where to begin with the first two.
Bought a domain once, but then couldn’t figure out where to put the files

matty matty bang bang

@ShadowJonathan @pixel you can always just host a neocities page, completely free and has 1gb of space

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@wuppy @pixel this is pretty much neocities, but self-hosted and thus self-dependable

matty matty bang bang

@ShadowJonathan @pixel got it yeah. im working on self-hosting for myself but moving rn so i don't wanna put too much effort into something ill have to take apart in a month

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@pixel @ShadowJonathan

it probably takes about as much time to learn any CMS well enough to get it to work as desired as learning html and CSS

I mean HTML isn't going anywhere , the rest of our lives and until civilization callapses we'll be dealing with HTML, and the promise of CMS is very deceptive as it offers convenience at the expense of lock in

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@pixel @ShadowJonathan

Also Tor exists, you can just host a static HTML page with any web server on the tor network on a personal devices, no need for domain

devils πŸ”ž

@pixel Very true, but for some reason that last point really bothers me...

Not an issue with you, you're not even wrong. I'm just bothered by a lack of wanting to learn from others.

Andy

@devils well, it's simple

if the entire world is handed to you at your convenience, is there any incentive to learn?

the big players in Web 2.0 made things super easily accessible with simple tools, no need to learn the very basics of making a website.

and if you don't have your own intrinsic motivation, you don't really have a will to learn then.

Andy

@devils thankfully, what I mentioned is slowly reversing.

more and more people are realizing that the convenience came at a cost, like that things might just disappear at the whims of investors.

more personal websites are appearing again, especially after Twitter started its slow demise.

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