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Robert Reich

Call me crazy, but maybe presidents who get themselves indicted shouldn't have their criminal trials presided over by judges they themselves appointed.

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Professor_Stevens

@rbreich

Or, if they do, they should stop whining about juries with a lot of opposition party members on them.

P J Evans

@mastodonmigration @rbreich
It's a ethics thing, so a lot of federal judges don't understand it.

DELETED

@rbreich He's called the Teflon man for a reason. Probably cause he's a carcinogen.

Carolyn

@rbreich Yeah, it's surprising that she didn't have to immediately recuse herself.

delProfundo

@rbreich here Robert goes again. Talking sense.

JonChevreau

@rbreich You’re crazy! But good point.

Larry Smith

@rbreich
It seems like all of the words I've read and examples I've been given about conflict of interest, often imposed harshly to civil service employees and banking employees, don't matter a hoot to the the upper level government employees -- where I'd think they would most apply.

The behavior of our esteemed judges are showing either how hollow our "society of laws" or how hollow they are. Our image in the world is severely tarnished.

Don Watkins

@rbreich Nothing ever happens to the GOP. Willful subversion of US laws is all good with them.

AlexMH

@rbreich
Yeah, we all knew this was coming. Unfortunately, the judiciary isn't very judicial these days.

Angie πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

@rbreich Call me bonkers, but maybe presidents who conspire to commit genocide shouldn't threaten the ICC.

ShutterBugged

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Gee, I wasn't aware we had a republican president right now. I wonder who biden lost to?

Toadman628

@rbreich The big issue deals with the FEAR MANGORING that being told by Trump. Every crime boss has followers who will jump and carry out his threats. The ones who are really dangerous are the quiet ones. This time, we have a DOJ and a military that follows their oaths in the Constitution. If it takes big fences on the constitutional process of certification, then only the ones who try other means will try to disrupt. Just remember that our franchise, our votes count. VOTE!

Tom Bortels

@rbreich

My understanding is that traditionally, judges are supposed to be apolitical and beyond reproach, and so would only recuse in the most dire of conflicts. To recuse just because the defendant appointed you was to admit you were incapable of being fair and impartial, and you may as well resign.

But - given current events, I guess that theory is, at best, horse pucky. One hopes a new set of standards will address this long term - but short term, I suspect we're stuck until the current cases have fully resolved - changing the rules mid-game is a bit hinky as well.

@rbreich

My understanding is that traditionally, judges are supposed to be apolitical and beyond reproach, and so would only recuse in the most dire of conflicts. To recuse just because the defendant appointed you was to admit you were incapable of being fair and impartial, and you may as well resign.

Serge

@rbreich Probably normal for the USA. A country that is internationally famous for its class justice. Something D.J. Trump himself coincidentally is an excellent example of and has been for literal decades.

David Bruchmann

@rbreich

As long as the judges never get benefits beside their rightful salaries ... ohhh, wait ...

RenΓ©

@rbreich In the netherlands, you can "challenge" a judge if you think they are not impartial. A case like this would be impossible in the Netherlands. But judges aren’t been chosen by politicians directly by the way. #trump

BoneHouseWasps πŸ”Ά

@rbreich Call *me* crazy but perhaps making judicial appointments a political thing is *bad idea* in the first place and delivers a system which is ripe for abuse.

Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά #FBPE

@rbreich This could be avoided by having a "separation of powers", where judges weren't party politicians appointed by party politicians but were instead independent of government. You could then appoint judges for being good at being judges rather than for party loyalty.

Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom πŸ•―οΈ

@rbreich Actually, to guarantee independent justice, no other branch (neither executive or legislative) should appoint judges.

Bodhipaksa

@rbreich I don't know the workings of the legal system, but it does seem crazy that given the circumstances she isn't required or forced to recuse herself

2xfo

@rbreich
Feels like a high crime or misdemeanor to me

Maurice Milligan

@rbreich It's what happens in so-called banana republics. No surprise that the USA finds itself in that position now.

Sassinake! - βŠƒβˆͺ∩βͺ½

@rbreich

It's like corruption and conflics of interest are no longer crimes in America.

It's like a bunch of crimes are now unenforceable against the ruling class... by now, I mean visibly, unashamedly; they are effectively immune to the justice system.

If there is no justice, there is no government, certainly no democracy.

GJ Groothedde πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

@rbreich This has baffled me from the beginning. If this is not a reason to recuse, what is?

Geldforschung βœ…

@rbreich Call me crazy but maybe judges should BE elected by the people.

Peter Brown

@rbreich it would at least give a better impression of the administration of genuine Justice.

John R :verified:

@rbreich
I’ll go a step further.

Senators and Representatives in Congress don’t get to vote during an Impeachment when they are known to be complicit.

We wouldn’t have a Trump problem if this were the norm.

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