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King Calyo Delphi

@csgraves @kkarhan @nixCraft @gearlicious Yeeahhhh... that's definitely not how copyright works. Just because the output of an AI or a photo taken by an animal isn't protected by copyright doesn't necessarily mean that it can't violate copyright, either.

6 May at 20:49 | Wall-to-wall | Open on rubber.social
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Kevin Karhan :verified:
King Calyo Delphi

@kkarhan @csgraves @nixCraft @gearlicious The way you phrased your own post made it sound like AI can't violate copyright because its own output isn't copyrightable.

That's not the case.

6 May at 20:52 | Open on rubber.social
Kevin Karhan :verified:

@dragonarchitect @csgraves @nixCraft @gearlicious both is true:

- "#AI" can't violate #copyright.
- #Scraping is not #CopyrightInfringement!
- Machine-generated output is not #copyrightable because it doesn't have a human author...
- If we deem #learning as copyright #infringement then we'd all be perpetual #DebtPeons to the #Contentmafia!

I do however condemn the #WastefulComputing for wannabe-"AI" that doesn't add anything meaningful to society and the world in general: Just like #NFTs and #Cryptocurrency-#Shitcoins!

@dragonarchitect @csgraves @nixCraft @gearlicious both is true:

- "#AI" can't violate #copyright.
- #Scraping is not #CopyrightInfringement!
- Machine-generated output is not #copyrightable because it doesn't have a human author...
- If we deem #learning as copyright #infringement then we'd all be perpetual #DebtPeons to the #Contentmafia!

6 May at 20:56 | Open on infosec.space
loganer

@kkarhan @dragonarchitect @csgraves @nixCraft @gearlicious

indeed, AI is just a tool.
AI can't do copyright infringement but people can.
the natural conclusion is that you should go after the people who are using the tools for wrong and not wasting your time going after the tool.

if a group of people were committing murder with hammers, you'd go after the group of people and not hammers in general (at least I'd hope so).

6 May at 21:45 | Open on mastodon.social
Kevin Karhan :verified:

@loganer @dragonarchitect @csgraves @nixCraft @gearlicious PRECISELY!

The person using it is at fault, that's why people face jailtime, not weapons!

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What is sold as "#AI" isn't a sentient being but rather a stupid program.


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Said program cannot be made liable nor has it any intention.


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Like a car it won't be able to distinguish whether or not it"s running over an armed robber in self defense, a child on it's way to school because the driver is texting hits the curb because the driver has a heart attack...

@loganer @dragonarchitect @csgraves @nixCraft @gearlicious PRECISELY!

The person using it is at fault, that's why people face jailtime, not weapons!

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What is sold as "#AI" isn't a sentient being but rather a stupid program.


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Said program cannot be made liable nor has it any intention.

6 May at 21:58 | Open on infosec.space
loganer

@kkarhan @dragonarchitect @csgraves @nixCraft @gearlicious and if you think of it, llm isn't all that different from cryptography in how it functions.

the only major different really being that we've adjusted the parameters to produce a somewhat useable output instead of complete pseudorandomness.

different end goals but fundementally the same principles applied.

6 May at 22:40 | Open on mastodon.social
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