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Simon Poole

@amapanda @Melaskia @zverik @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief

Back on the maintenance topic.

There has been this concept that this would be done by the drive by contributors that the "simple" tools are targeted at, and while that can't be completely dismissed, just the volume and nature of what has to be maintained would suggest that that is not going to happen.

Just consider that it isn't really #OpenStreetMap these days ...

2 May at 7:08 | Wall-to-wall | Open on en.osm.town
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Simon Poole replied to Simon

@amapanda @Melaskia @zverik @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief

.. but more "OpenBuildingMap" keeping that up to date, regardless of (insert you fav buzz word here) tooling is simply uninteresting drudgery that is only going to be done by people that are actually committed to the cause. ...

2 May at 7:18 | Open on en.osm.town
Simon Poole replied to Simon

@amapanda @Melaskia @zverik @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief

...

Factor in the difference in contribution volume between incidental and even just average regular contributors (easily 10^5) and I believe you can't come to a different conclusion that what we really need is more highly engaged and dedicated contributors.

2 May at 7:18 | Open on en.osm.town
Ilya Zverev replied to Simon

@simon @amapanda @Melaskia @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief Yeah I came to a similar conclusion. Not dismissing drive-by contributors from OMaps and SC — they are essential because some map is better than no map.

But I really don't know how to find highly engaged contributors. How to find people that look at the map and think, oh, okay, this might be the thing to which I will devote every day of the rest of my life.

All I can do is make tools to ease and speed up our work, so we focus on fun bits.

2 May at 9:08 | Open on en.osm.town
Ilya Zverev replied to Ilya

@simon @amapanda @Melaskia @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief One obvious way I can think of is publicity. As I mentioned on the strategy thread (community.openstreetmap.org/t/ ), nobody knows about OpenStreetMap, and I see people on Mastodon discovering the joy of mapping every day. That's partly because media is eager to write about GMaps' spending millions, but not about how mapping has become accessible and fun and fulfilling twenty years ago.

@simon @amapanda @Melaskia @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief One obvious way I can think of is publicity. As I mentioned on the strategy thread (community.openstreetmap.org/t/ ), nobody knows about OpenStreetMap, and I see people on Mastodon discovering the joy of mapping every day. That's partly because media is eager to write about GMaps' spending millions, but not about how mapping has become accessible and fun and fulfilling...

2 May at 9:23 | Open on en.osm.town
Ilya Zverev replied to Ilya

@simon @amapanda @Melaskia @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief

When OSM is mentioned, it's always boring stuff like "open license", "tech enthusiasts", "used by major corporations", "everyone can register" blah blah.

Not the real things like you could go into a forest or a city, experience it from new sides, learn a lot and share this knowledge with others via mapping with your phone or camera or pen and paper. It makes you smarter and healthier and doesn't require you to learn Python or whatever.

2 May at 9:29 | Open on en.osm.town
SK53 replied to Ilya

@zverik @simon @amapanda @Melaskia @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief

This reflects, as much as anything, that #OpenStreetMap is tech dominated. I've been advocating that we try and move away from such narratives for a long time :

"Let’s work so that ordinary folk can actively participate in OpenStreetMap. Geographic knowledge is a universal, we must step away from the techy focus of the first 10 years."

From @opencage interview NINE 9️⃣ years ago! blog.opencagedata.com/post/117

@zverik @simon @amapanda @Melaskia @IvanSanchez @luis_in_brief

This reflects, as much as anything, that #OpenStreetMap is tech dominated. I've been advocating that we try and move away from such narratives for a long time :

"Let’s work so that ordinary folk can actively participate in OpenStreetMap. Geographic knowledge is a universal, we must step away from the techy focus of the first 10 years."

2 May at 14:56 | Open on en.osm.town
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