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Luis Villa

@simon but if you want to keep proving my point by telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, go ahead!

30 April at 15:46 | Open on social.coop
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Simon Poole

@luis_in_brief I'm not saying you are not accurately reporting what you experienced at the WMF. I'm just saying that they are what should be expected when interacting with a large number of what are essentially end customers of the WMF.

And naturally the world would be a better place if it wasn't so.

30 April at 16:11 | Open on en.osm.town
Michal Migurski πŸ‰

@simon @luis_in_brief Why expect bad interactions? Other international projects routinely use tools like codes of conduct and UX research to improve both software and the community interactions around it.

For example Python packaging is famously in flux and problematic but the foundations behind it support work like this from @brainwane:

discuss.python.org/t/pip-ux-re

I would love OSMF to have something like this but community leaders keep telling us that assholery is inevitable. /shrug

@simon @luis_in_brief Why expect bad interactions? Other international projects routinely use tools like codes of conduct and UX research to improve both software and the community interactions around it.

For example Python packaging is famously in flux and problematic but the foundations behind it support work like this from @brainwane:

30 April at 17:20 | Open on mastodon.social
Simon Poole

@migurski @luis_in_brief @brainwane if we were talking business models I would point out that you are mixing up a b2b situation with a b2c one.

30 April at 17:29 | Open on en.osm.town
Michal Migurski πŸ‰

@simon @luis_in_brief We’re not talking business models, so how is that relevant?

30 April at 17:37 | Open on mastodon.social
Simon Poole replied to Michal Migurski πŸ‰

@migurski @luis_in_brief you are taking a situation with interactions of what are essentially peers in the same space and saying what works there, works in a situation were the relationship and the motivation to engage are very different.

Short: dev to dev vs dev to user.

How many times have you interacted with the engineer that designed your washing machine?

30 April at 18:06 | Open on en.osm.town
Michal Migurski πŸ‰ replied to Simon

@simon @luis_in_brief I think you’re misreading the link I shared, maybe try again?

30 April at 18:09 | Open on mastodon.social
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