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Lars Wirzenius

I don't know why this law makes sense. Please don't ask me to explain it.

15 April at 16:17 | Open on toot.liw.fi
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gaytabase

@liw i'm guessing it's to stop begging on the street and the law is atrociously written

15 April at 16:19 | Open on social.treehouse.systems
Seph‽ 🌳 🐦 🐟 🔔

@dysfun @liw Laws against begging on the street are also not okay.

15 April at 16:40 | Open on queer.party
Lars Wirzenius

@melivia @dysfun This is not a law against begging on the street, and is not used for that.

15 April at 16:42 | Open on toot.liw.fi
bmaxv

@liw That's pretty interesting.

It makes sense to me, but I'm not going to speculate. I'm sure there are sources on the internet that explain the hows and whys.

15 April at 16:45 | Open on noc.social
orva

@liw AFAIK it was created during 90s economic downturn (or was it the earlier one?) to combat fraudulent money gathering scams that ruined quite a many lives. So it is remnant from times when freelancing and other solo working options weren't really a thing. Should have been removed from law a long time ago.

15 April at 16:56 | Open on fosstodon.org
orva

@liw Well maybe not removed, but reworked. It IS nice that trying to run a pyramid scheme in Finland will automatically throw you into jail

15 April at 17:02 | Open on fosstodon.org
Markus Peuhkuri

No, it is way older, of course the law has been renewed every 20 years or like. For long it has been controlled if in exchange of donation you would get a change to join a draw lottery or get some flower pin (which value is way less than selling price).
@orva @liw

15 April at 18:18 | Open on mastodon.social
Jouni Seppänen

@orva @liw At least since 1980: finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/kum, and that one replaced a previous law from 1939 that I cannot find online. Pre-EU Finland used to be a pretty paternalistic place.

The upside is that Wikipedia stopped showing the donation-drive ads in Finland.

16 April at 13:38 | Open on kamu.social
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