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Erick

@collinsworth This is one of appeals of writing servers in Rust to me. It has a better chance of just working really well by default. Granted I'm not sure if I could deploy to a VPS though. I think Svelte on the front end is a similar appeal.

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djsf

@erickjm @collinsworth im really interested in those two technologies…

unfortunately i dont have time to learn them because im busy running meetings where three separate stakeholders argue over what a single line of code should be.

happyborg

@djsf
I love Svelte + Rust too. Both awesome but together a dream.

I'm working in a demo with them now which will help illustrate how things are about to change dramatically in the direction the OP describes, and I've not been this excited about tech since the early days of the web, when we were emailing http server IP addresses, visiting just to see what loaded from the other side of the world.

Those were amazing times and things are going to blow minds again soon.

@erickjm @collinsworth

@djsf
I love Svelte + Rust too. Both awesome but together a dream.

I'm working in a demo with them now which will help illustrate how things are about to change dramatically in the direction the OP describes, and I've not been this excited about tech since the early days of the web, when we were emailing http server IP addresses, visiting just to see what loaded from the other side of the world.

djsf

@happyborg @erickjm @collinsworth thats amazing! is there a way i can learn more about the project?

happyborg

@djsf
The project is #Autonomi, a secure, privacy focussed peer-to-peer network (no blockchains!). It is autonomous and aims to restore autonomy, hence the name and I'm building a demo app to show developers and users some of what it can do.

You can read more in the White Paper linked at autonomi.com and there's a friendly knowledgeable community to ask anything at forum.autonomi.community
@erickjm @collinsworth

happyborg

@Suran
A lot. Eventually everything, but much will depend on what apps arrive when.

At a base level it delivers privacy and secure access to your data from any device without logging in to a service, being spied on etc. Just you and the network, no gatekeepers.

We'll see everything we have, and things we haven't in time because developers will be freed and can build apps that scale without VC backing.

I'm building a web publishing app. Others music, social etc

@djsf @erickjm @collinsworth

@Suran
A lot. Eventually everything, but much will depend on what apps arrive when.

At a base level it delivers privacy and secure access to your data from any device without logging in to a service, being spied on etc. Just you and the network, no gatekeepers.

We'll see everything we have, and things we haven't in time because developers will be freed and can build apps that scale without VC backing.

Suran

@happyborg @djsf @erickjm @collinsworth

A PROTOCOL would be something useful. Depending on what it actually does.

But a "data and communications network "?

What even IS a "data network"?

What is a "A network token sale"?
Do you need a token to access this "network" and purchase them?

Why would any developer want to rely on someone else's "communication network" instead of just opening an TLS encrypted, certificate-pinned IPv6 TCP connection to your server/NAS/... .
Because that's where "your data" is.

Offering space needed for your own data for sombody else's and entrusting your data to random computers with the risk of loosing it?

@happyborg @djsf @erickjm @collinsworth

A PROTOCOL would be something useful. Depending on what it actually does.

But a "data and communications network "?

What even IS a "data network"?

What is a "A network token sale"?
Do you need a token to access this "network" and purchase them?

Why would any developer want to rely on someone else's "communication network" instead of just opening an TLS encrypted, certificate-pinned IPv6 TCP connection to your server/NAS/... .
Because that's where "your data" is.

happyborg

@Suran
I should have said "data storage and..".

The network is the protocol of course, but without incentives to run nodes data would not be secure.

So you pay to upload. But that's it. Data is stored forever. No subs, egress, or access fees.

Devs can use the only features they want. There will always be pros and cons, but using a foundation built for security and privacy makes it easy, and lowers the bar for secure apps and services for everyone.

@djsf @erickjm @collinsworth

@Suran
I should have said "data storage and..".

The network is the protocol of course, but without incentives to run nodes data would not be secure.

So you pay to upload. But that's it. Data is stored forever. No subs, egress, or access fees.

Devs can use the only features they want. There will always be pros and cons, but using a foundation built for security and privacy makes it easy, and lowers the bar for secure apps and services for everyone.

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