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@thomasfuchs honestly, a browser/PWA-first phone OS isn't a terrible idea, or maintaining a basic Linux desktop like GNOME and making it a ChromeOS-alike, or domain/email hosting, each of which could be a paid product, with certified hardware partners alongside a DIY ecosystem, to improve the sustainability of Mozilla. Mozilla could also stop trying to be a Silicon Valley tech company and run more efficient operations. They could be a lot of things which they aren't :-(
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 @raven667 @thomasfuchs they're not equally available. Mozilla (appears to?) put virtually zero effort in actually making Gecko or Spidermonkey usable outside of Firefox. Ok, Spidermonkey has its own website now, very cool. Does it have actual docs in a readable format? Lol no. Now Servo definitely is showing hope. Probably (why and/or because) it's no longer a Mozilla project.  @raven667 @thomasfuchs I own a FirefoxOS phone (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS) and I can confidently say: it sucks. Yes, part of it is the extremely cheap hardware, but part of it is also the software.  @claudius @raven667 @thomasfuchs let's face it, user-facing FOSS is usually a subpar copy of commercial software. I use a ton of FOSS on my home lab and elsewhere but that's how it is. @stooovie Also I don't *nearly* spend as much time on fixing shit on my Windows PC as I do on my Linux laptop. @claudius @raven667 @thomasfuchs I think the strengths of FOSS are in the backend and experimentation. User-facing apps are almost invariably better commercial. @stooovie I think, for the most part open source is now at a weird "good enough" state. I get by very well with LibreOffice, Firefox, KiCad, VSCodium, Kdenlive, digiKam, OBS Studio, Inkscape, Krita, Blender, Joplin and quite a few others. Integration is what really sucks, though. I enjoy using some of them, I tolerate using some of them. Overall I'm pretty happy that I have all of these. I'm glad that I can contribute to them, I like that I can sometimes influence their trajectory slightly. @raven667 @thomasfuchs if I recall correctly the Palm Pre webOS phones were essentially browser-first phones. Great while they lasted, but ... they didn't last. |
@thomasfuchs There are valid technical reasons why when companies want to build their own browser-based tools (Vivaldi, Electron, various embedded systems like Opera in cars) they license Chromium and not Mozilla when both are equally available AFAIK.