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gwil

Came by blog.jim-nielsen.com/2024/allu via @liaizon, and this image on a hypothetical ‘sync engine market’ caught my eye.

“This becomes very valuable because now you can have many “sync engines” — e.g. imagine “AWS Sync Engine”, “Azure Sync Engine” etc. — and when one becomes too expensive, or you stop liking it, or they change their terms of service, you can simply switch from one syncing service to another.”

I think we have good reason to believe that such a market would produce standards that’d be *impossible* to run without big companies at the heart of it all.

As a concrete example, look at Bluesky and their moderation market where the systems are simply too large and complex to be run by ordinary users, so if you want safety you have to *rent* it.

(^ for more on that, @lrhodes has a lot of good writing on this topic e.g. destructured.net/paid-moderati)

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Alonealastalovedalongthe

@gwil @liaizon @lrhodes

"As a concrete example, look at Bluesky and their moderation market where the systems are simply too large and complex to be run by ordinary users, so if you want safety you have to *rent* it."

Ahh right, sure thatttt won't cause a problem down the road for allowing centralization of bluesky.

I think the nut of the issue is that big tech companies believe they can use AI to moderate... when moderation is probably one of the hardest problems to tackle with automation.

Alonealastalovedalongthe

@gwil @liaizon @lrhodes

This entire corporate vision of social media is reliant on the idea only big companies will be able to control spam and moderation with advanced AI when the opposite is more likely to be true, social media may never actually be that sustainable of a business because community spaces require actual human moderation to remain healthy and that is categorically too costly for tech companies to ever actually do and goes against their basic value system anyways.

mycorrhiza

@gwil @liaizon @lrhodes
> But sync engines (in the context of local-first software) aim to do for data what React did for the DOM.

Um, I haven’t really kept up with the “local first” discourse, but this piece has opened my eyes to the fact that the Tech People talking about local first software have a very different vision than I do.

mycorrhiza

@gwil @liaizon @lrhodes me: what if we wrote more programs that used simple but secure protocols to take advantage of the internet when it’s available, but worked fine without it?

tech bros: what if we had React for data models? We can have a marketplace of sync engines!

Powersource

@mycorrhiza @gwil @liaizon @lrhodes I think they're trying to say (optimistically maybe) the same thing kinda but also with an emphasis on a really nice developer experience

Powersource

@gwil @liaizon @lrhodes haven't read up on how bluesky's moderation works, will have to read that one!

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