Gregory's Server@Catvalente Can't speak for all bad straights, but: I was brought up as a religious conservative, and the goal was always delegitimizing gay people and advancing theocracy. Gay marriage was seen as a way for the secular world to make gains on territory we saw as "ours," and as a barrier to our goal of reversing the acceptance of gay people. We believed that our country succeeded or struggled in accordance with how much God favored us. Ergo, enforcing religious law would benefit everyone.
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 @lykso @Catvalente  @leeloo @Catvalente I mean, you're already failing to understand that logic didn't enter into any of it. You can't really argue with theofascists. There weren't facts; there were articles of faith, to which the facts would be fit or discarded as necessary. Edit: That said, the primary goal was always reversing the acceptance of gay people. It was always about forcing adherence to our religious beliefs, by hook or by crook. Rhetoric around defending "turf" was mostly in service to that.  Then it would appear that God is sick and tired of being worshipped, because the influence of #religion has been waning for centuries. I suppose I would not want to be worshipped, either, if it meant I had to constantly watch my beloved creations horribly murder each other in my name… @argv_minus_one @Catvalente I mean, that trend would have fit my beliefs regarding the "end times" perfectly. Never did I ever come across an argument or observation that I couldn't rationalize away or incorporate. Only thing that got me out was finally understanding that I had to prove my positive claim and then realizing that none of the arguments it seemed anyone had ever made in service of that actually worked. Out of curiosity, how would you have rationalized away life in the US getting better, despite widespread atheism, for the last several decades? @argv_minus_one @Catvalente In all likelihood, I'd have argued it was in fact worse today in many ways than, say, the 1950s. |
@Catvalente N.B.: I am not this at all anymore, I just remember what I'd been taught and what was said by the people around me. The core belief on all subjects political was that we must force people to follow what we believed was "God's law" or risk the ruin of our country. There was never a deeper rationale than that. Fundamentally, these people are not living in the real world.