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ophiocephalic 🐍

@inquiline
Just finished reading through, this is an excellent contribution to our understanding of the fedi's potentials and potential limitations in regards to online activism. Though this may fall outside of your definition of lossy, one idea that occurs, in comparison to the twitter experience, is that it and the other capitalist networks also introduce effective lossiness in the form of the algorithm (and more deliberatively, censorship). There were algo-induced Rashomon moments on twitter.

Would agree with your conclusion that activists could be better off in the context of non-centralized network ownership, assuming that further development takes their needs into account. Given sufficient critical mass, a hashtag campaign can achieve its ends under lossy conditions, as they certainly did on twitter; and here, with the fragmentation of moderative ideology and the prospect of a social media purposefully built for community organizing, possibly even more effectively. Lots to think about, great paper!

@inquiline
Just finished reading through, this is an excellent contribution to our understanding of the fedi's potentials and potential limitations in regards to online activism. Though this may fall outside of your definition of lossy, one idea that occurs, in comparison to the twitter experience, is that it and the other capitalist networks also introduce effective lossiness in the form of the algorithm (and more deliberatively, censorship). There were algo-induced Rashomon moments on twitter.

Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫

@ophiocephalic
Thank you!!

>>the other capitalist networks also introduce effective lossiness in the form of the algorithm (and more deliberatively, censorship)

Yes, IMO this is a really good point and I wouldn't want to overstate the contrast from a user's perspective in particular; tho the mechanisms behind the lossiness differ as you point out. Wish I could add this as a FN!

ophiocephalic 🐍

@inquiline
Appreciate your consideration of that idea! Yes, either way, there are headwinds; but one could argue that it's more favorable terrain for the activist to face the mostly disorderly lossiness of the fedi over the engineered lossiness of, say, a cryptofascist billionaire-owner. As you note, further development pathways will be key (i.e. are we building a space for communities to organize in, or a twitter clone to conquer the world?)

Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫

@ophiocephalic
>> one could argue that it's more favorable terrain for the activist to face the mostly disorderly lossiness of the fedi over the engineered lossiness of, say, a cryptofascist billionaire-owner

💯 exactly what I conclude too. !

>> are we building a space for communities to organize in, or a twitter clone to conquer the world

And this is also a really good reminder/prompt

ophiocephalic 🐍

@inquiline
TY! BTW, I was in Green Apple the other day and took a hunt for Oil Beach. I didn't find it but it's on my list!

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