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Kee Hinckley

@joelcrump Paraphrasing a post I saw recently. The issue is not whether you have anything to hide, it’s whether you can trust the people who get hold of your data to use it ethically. Is there nothing your phone tracks that couldn’t be used by someone with a grudge against you? Correctly or not? Speeding info? Your boss knowing you’re looking for a job?

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Maggie Maybe

@joelcrump @nazgul oh it probably does for a white man. Sorry I replied to you as if I was talking to a woman, or anyone who doesn’t have equal rights with someone like you. So you can disregard my Planned Parenthood stuff. You’ll never have to worry about not being allowed to have reproductive rights or get medical care because of your gender. Carry on.

joelcrump

@maggiejk @nazgul Forgive me if I unintentionally implied anything like you seem to have taken it to mean, I don't think it would be right to exploit such personal information to use against someone.

Maggie Maybe

@joelcrump @nazgul well you kind of did when you said you didn’t care because you had nothing to hide. That kind of implies that only people who are doing sketchy things should care about their privacy.

And I guess I’m just marveling at your lack of concern, then I realized that you probably aren’t affected by the fascism that’s happening.

Maggie Maybe

@nazgul @joelcrump I think some of these people were too young to remember when employers started firing people who smoked cigarettes off the clock. That was only in 2008 or 2009.

Joel looks old enough to remember 2008.
Right around that time I also knew people who had their credit card limits slashed in half by the banks because they shopped where poor people shopped. They went to Walmart, and that made Bank of America think they might default on their credit line so they would slash it in half. And it was upsetting for these people because they were in the middle of home renovations or trying to plan a vacation or something.

To play devils advocate here, you want to give up your freedom (to smoke a cigarette or shop at Walmart) so that you can make a doctors appointment with a smart phone?

@nazgul @joelcrump I think some of these people were too young to remember when employers started firing people who smoked cigarettes off the clock. That was only in 2008 or 2009.

Joel looks old enough to remember 2008.
Right around that time I also knew people who had their credit card limits slashed in half by the banks because they shopped where poor people shopped. They went to Walmart, and that made Bank of America think they might default on their credit line so they would slash it in half....

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Just gonna also point out that Joel's zero-follow, zero-follower, zero-bio account was created just 4 days after this whole issue was first posted about by @lrvick, and their only posts have been replies in this thread, what are the odds
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Kee Hinckley

@smallpatatas @maggiejk @lrvick I certainly hadn’t heard that argument made in years, except by trolls.

Fortunately Mona lets me add notes to accounts so I know why I blocked them.

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