Gregory's ServerOoo. Company just called I applied for.
Them: We'd like to get you into a round of interviews!
Me: GREAT! How many interviews?
Them: There are six
Me: Oh, Three interviews are my max.
Them: *frustrated* You don't get to decide that.
Me: Oh, but I DO. *click*
Back to #pascal programming :) Fight back #tech bros! Fight back.
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 @praetor I bet they get a lot of really good applicants drop out when they realize this company doesn't give a shit about their time and resources. @praetor I don't think they learn from it. I think they shrug their shoulders and claim Gen ? is the most lazy generation they've ever tried to work with. @praetor For COBOL programmers, they need exactly one interview. "How much code have you written professionally in COBOL? Tell me about that..." and boom, hired. 6 interviews suggests there is a line of them that snakes around the corner, it's sofa king popular a vocation.   @elfin @ksaj @praetor 🤷♂️ All I knows is what I can find, and the COBOL jobs I find when I've gone looking (many times, I'm fascinated by the myth that COBOL programmers are extremely rare and in demand, it seems to be a PR project by IBM or something) are always poorly paid relative to the level of seniority I'd expect of COBOL devs. I mean, most other old languages have higher average pay, even if they're not popular and don't have a stronghold in banking and finance. @praetor @swelljoe @elfin I'm not very polite. And I'm Canadian. No joke - I went to pick up a postal delivery that required paying whatever fee. When I got there, my wallet had a mind of its own, and I couldn't find my ID. I eventually found it. And upon paying, she told me that I swear too much, and next time she hopes I will not. Damn wallet!  @godzero @ksaj @praetor lol. That's what I mean! Every couple years there's a bunch of articles, news segments, etc. talking about this shortage of COBOL programmers. Pay market rates, the problem will be solved right quick. But, any time bosses complain about not being able to hire, it's always low wages. @ksaj @praetor https://cobolcowboys.com/ Not an endorsement, but they were mentioned on a podcast once. And golly what a name!  @praetor I have a rule: one phone interview, one in person. At that point, if you don't think I'm the right fit, a third isn't going to change that. If they find people that way great for them. I'd like to know who I work with. There is great sense in making exactly two meetings. One with people who can present their company and learn about me, one where I meet with my immediate team. If that doesn't work for them, I have other options.   @praetor If you really wanted to blow their minds, you should have said that you had a maximum of four interviews, including this one. And then watch how they react. 😂  @praetor@social.sdf.org I'd limit myself to two. One initial screening interview so we can determine mutual compatibility, one with people I'll be working with. Outside that, I question how serious the company is.  @praetor My former husband did 6 interviews for a company once when looking for a job. While he was waiting for the 6th interviewer's approval, he went on another job interview, and they hired him on the spot for his asking price. The first company was so pissed. People actually called him up from that 1st company to tell him how disappointed they were. I guess he dodged a bullet and likely you did, too.  @praetor Wholly agree with this I finally got 2 offers today after months and months of searching and that was something I decided at the outset.. if it looks like a really drawn out process or they start asking for take home tests and assignments I either need to ask for clarification or move on, just no time to waste on that when like many people I had to apply to 100+ things to get anywhere in this market. I too mentally had put the limit at 3, initial/panel/CXO is enough time.   @praetor This is absurd to me. Three is completely reasonable for a non-Csuite position. One with the recruiter to qualify, one for the HR to qualify and then one with the main manager/team lead to make final say. That is reasonable. Anything more than that and they would be better off just hiring you at a rate (or offering a do this task for x dollars for a week) and see if your a fit. I don't know how these companies have time to RUN 6 meetings. Alternatively: "No problem! I charge $500 per interview after the third, paid in advance" @praetor Even when I was an interviewer at the big companies, the max was three, maybe four if something went sideways during an earlier round. What the hell are they going to get in interview number five that they can't get in interview number two? 😢 @CiscoJunkie to see if you'll suck their CEOs dick for profit to "fit in". That's the best I can figure. But the industry is rife with it. @CiscoJunkie I've heard from folks on the #fediverse some companies are doing as many as 9 interviews. @praetor Yeah, that'd be a "poor culture fit on my end" moment for me (similar to your reaction in the original post).  |
@praetor Yup, that's really abusive of a job searcher's time. Get a 🤬 board room and bring in multiple interviewers at a time.