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la ninpre

i can think of both pros and cons of such exclusion, but i think even if the person who made something other people use, did terrible things, still naming their things after them is not necessarily accepting their bad behaviour. it's more like remembering something good about these people.

1 March at 5:15 | Open on merveilles.town
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la ninpre

anyway, i just think that straight up forgetting about those people is like rewriting history to make it more comfortable/safe. i am NOT saying that we shouldn't know about those bad things those people did, and i'm NOT in any way accepting their behaviour. i just don't think that if someone did something bad it undoes all good things they did. oh, btw, i'm primarily talking about past events here, where you can't do anything about it.

btw, feel free to disagree, i am open to changing my mind.

1 March at 5:24 | Open on merveilles.town
R E K

@la_ninpre hehe, did you see me sharing a photo of a Prusik knot yesterday? :P...

1 March at 15:38 | Open on merveilles.town
la ninpre

@rek yes, yes, but i was thinking about this for quite some time

1 March at 15:39 | Open on merveilles.town
R E K

@la_ninpre It's tricky. The name does distract. I like the knot, it's very useful, but sharing it with that name will likely always attract conversations about the inventor's past instead of ones about the many uses of that knot. So it makes it difficult now to want to share that knot with that name.
When sharing things online, ppl have no context for you, there's always a big risk of being 'guilty by association'. Sometimes its safer not to insist, I don't want that kind of heat.

1 March at 15:54 | Open on merveilles.town
la ninpre

@rek thanks for telling that, i can see why one would want to use a generic name for such things. unfortunately, tho, it's not always possible to predict what will trigger some people. it's like some people just want to spread some hate they have inside so they'll pick anything actually :neofox_sad:

1 March at 16:03 | Open on merveilles.town
la ninpre

@rek i wonder if people are making flame wars about schödinger's equations

1 March at 16:19 | Open on merveilles.town
R E K

@la_ninpre Posting on Mastodon is like walking on egg shells, but again... i don't know what's going on in ppl's lives, they may not be in a good place, or have somekind of past trauma.
When someone tells me something I said or shared upsets them, in all, I prefer to correct, especially if that small act can spare that person some pain. The internet is already a very hostile place, so...

1 March at 16:33 | Open on merveilles.town
la ninpre

@rek this is a perspective i haven't thought of... thank you.

and i'm sorry if i said something unsettling. i never meant to pick on you personally.

1 March at 18:48 | Open on merveilles.town
R E K

@la_ninpre oh no no, don't worry, you didn't say anything unsettling, it's important to talk about this sort of thing.

1 March at 19:09 | Open on merveilles.town
ipso

@la_ninpre Small take, but I work in an environment with many spoken languages and everyone avoids names as much as possible due to the extra burden they place on communication. If there's a generic term for a concept that describes it well, it ends up being naturally preferred over tangentially introducing and explaining some historical figure (that will be difficult to remember and pronounce, anyway).

2 March at 17:28 | Open on merveilles.town
la ninpre

@ipso interesting point. traslating/transcribing names sure is tricky.

2 March at 19:59 | Open on merveilles.town
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