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Dr Dan Marshall

@Radical_EgoCom Humans are ethical, but our concern for fairness can probably be traced to tit-for-tat games between egoists, as mediated by our selfish genes. Compassion does exist, partly because of tit-for-tat, but also kin selection, imagined communities. I'm not saying humans don't help strangers, but we would generally put a higher priority on kin. And that, in itself, is a source of inequality.

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𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 replied to Dr Dan Marshall

@DrDanMarshall
Humans are inherently social beings who possess a deep-rooted sense of compassion and solidarity; they aren't solely driven by selfish genes and individualistic motives. Collective cooperation and mutual aid within communities are fundamental aspects of human nature. Kin selection and imagined communities don't inherently lead to inequality; these concepts can foster a sense of interconnectedness and shared responsibility.

Dr Dan Marshall replied to 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧

@Radical_EgoCom Humans are hypersocial *because* of our selfish genes, plus the mental "memetic" hack of imagined communities. (Graeber and some other David argue that imagined communities are not limited to nations and religions, and that they have been around for as long as behaviorally modern humans have.) You are correct that nepotism doesn't entail inequality. However, unequal *clans* + nepotism = reinforced inequality.

𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 replied to Dr Dan Marshall

@DrDanMarshall
While human behavior can be influenced by both genetic and memetic factors, it's not accurate to attribute our social nature solely to "selfish genes" or "imagined communities." Human sociality is also shaped by historical and material conditions, including economic systems and power dynamics, which can either reinforce or mitigate inequality.

Dr Dan Marshall replied to 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧

@Radical_EgoCom Indeed :) Memes are a bad model, difficult to apply. But they at least allow us to take historical contingencies into account. If we see a cultural feature, we can investigate the conditions under which that "meme" tends to "evolve." The cultural traits that are universal persist across a wide range of environments, and are quite probably genetic rather than memetic. Change the conditions, change which "memes" are "fit."

𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 replied to Dr Dan Marshall

@DrDanMarshall
While certain universal cultural traits may have genetic components, the emphasis should be placed on understanding cultural evolution and social dynamics rather than reducing everything to genetic determinism. The concept of memes is limited in its ability to explain the complexities of cultural change and evolution. A more nuanced analysis of historical contingencies and social structures is needed that shapes the transmission and evolution of cultural traits.

𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 replied to 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧

@DrDanMarshall
There is also a reductionist nature in viewing culture solely through the lens of memes. It's important to consider broader socio-political contexts in understanding cultural dynamics.

Dr Dan Marshall replied to 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧

@Radical_EgoCom One thing I did like about Graeber and the other David's book was the concept of schismogenesis. It introduces a still deterministic but very chaotic "force" into cultural evolution. By contrast, too many anthropologists seem to treat "cultural evolution" as more deterministic than how modern biologists think biological *development* is. Evolution is a messy, chaotic bitch, and people who talk about cultural evolution should keep that in mind.

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