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Dr Dan Marshall

@Radical_EgoCom I was basing unequal shares of the means of consumption on something Marx said in his Critique of the Gotha Programme. Was testing to see if you would *also* be okay with it, guess not :D

How exactly to allocate scarce forms of labor, even within a single household, seems like a Non-Trivial Problem which I really don't want to go into right now. Is it okay if I chalk it up to magical fairies for the time being?

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None Hitwonder replied to Dr Dan Marshall

@DrDanMarshall @Radical_EgoCom It seems to me that if a form of labor is scarce, then there's a reason for it. Can you give examples of some scarce forms of labor that would potentially be underserved?

None Hitwonder replied to None

@DrDanMarshall @Radical_EgoCom When I look it up, it sounds like you're possibly describing certain forms of skilled labor, so are we worried about not incentivizing enough people to occupy those roles? If so, then I think you may be overestimating the size of demand in a non-capitalist framework, which is understandable given how we currently treat skilled labor.

None Hitwonder replied to 0++0

@Oddel @DrDanMarshall @Radical_EgoCom I suspect that if a large enough number of people want to organize a festival, that there will be people willing to do the work to make it successful, including the task you just described. If not, then maybe there shouldn't be a festival. We clean up our messes; isn't that a basic value we teach to children? I think a lot of these scenarios are still taking place in a hypothetical world still running at a scale driven by profit motive.

Dr Dan Marshall replied to None

@nonehitwonder @Radical_EgoCom Let's back up a bit and talk theory before we get to concrete cases. Are you familiar with the labor theory of value, the marginal utility theory of value, the differences between them?

None Hitwonder replied to Dr Dan Marshall

@DrDanMarshall @Radical_EgoCom I am. Please continue with an example of some scarce forms of labor that would potentially be underserved in an Anarcho-Communist system as you currently understand it.

Dr Dan Marshall replied to None

@nonehitwonder @Radical_EgoCom Now that questions of religion and insults have been addressed...

I do not claim to understand anarcho-communism, despite being a ways into the *second* volume of An Anarchist FAQ . So I cannot do what you ask. What I can do is construct a list of desiderata that it would be good for *any* replacement for capitalism to fulfill, and you two could tell me if you think your proposal would do that.

Do you want me to do that?

None Hitwonder replied to Dr Dan Marshall

@DrDanMarshall @Radical_EgoCom First of all, am I understanding that you made your previous argument about scarce forms of labor without an inkling of a practical example? I must also point out that you again further deflected with another invocation of magical fairies.

I genuinely wanted to know what jobs are going to wither on the vine outside of capitalism, because if there's something we don't want to lose then I'm truly curious as to what it would be.

I sincerely care about this stuff. Are you just here to argue for arguments sake and waste everyone's time, or do you actually want to learn more about this and poke some thoughtful holes in something that DESERVES to be tested? Personally, I prefer the latter; people I care about are dying.

@DrDanMarshall @Radical_EgoCom First of all, am I understanding that you made your previous argument about scarce forms of labor without an inkling of a practical example? I must also point out that you again further deflected with another invocation of magical fairies.

I genuinely wanted to know what jobs are going to wither on the vine outside of capitalism, because if there's something we don't want to lose then I'm truly curious as to what it would be.

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