@isotopp I'm not actually against your conclusion,...

@isotopp I'm not actually against your conclusion, it's not user-friendly and not in any way a serious alternative to other chat clients or networks, but to at least to offer some explanation:
matrix.org is, much like mastodon, the name and website of the protocol and seems to not being aimed at 'users' much. The default portal of the element client (the web-app, not the ios/android app) looks much more like you would expect. (e.g. https://element.cccgoe.de/)

Like 13 February at 9:35 | Wall-to-wall | Open on fosstodon.org

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Ronnie Soak

@isotopp
So it relies on you already knowing which instance to join (e.g. your local hackspace) and does little to advertise which one to choose or what's their TOS/CoC/Privacy Policy. It's modeled much more after IRC than modern social media.

13 February at 9:38 | Open on fosstodon.org

Kris

@Chaos_99

IRC does better than that.
Even the worst and technically most backwards IRC, ircnet, has a redirect. So if you just point your client at irc.ircnet.com, it will direct you to the appropriate server.

Matrix does nothing like this.

https://www.ircnet.com/servers

13 February at 9:45 | Open on chaos.social

Ronnie Soak

@isotopp I'm not saying you are wrong. Only maybe that IRC had a little more time around to come up with that server list.
Also: running a federated Matrix server is costly. I'd say that not many actually are looking forward to new users. (I did not link our server for that reason, but a random CCC-related I found via search)

13 February at 9:53 | Open on fosstodon.org