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 @ramsey @lisamelton @mastodonmigration Fediverse servers are assumed to be federating and this is made clear when people join. Being able to follow people on other Fediverse servers is explicitly stated to be the reason you might sign up. For example have a look at this official video made by Mastodon: https://fedi.video/w/cbQE3NRw76FayQCSdb14TU Bluesky isn't part of the Fediverse, no one on here has been told they may end up being connected to Bluesky. 11 comments
 @homegrown @lisamelton @mastodonmigration No one here knows who theyβre going to be connected with at all, when they sign up, though. @ramsey @lisamelton @mastodonmigration They know it won't be on bluesky, which is what this bridge is trying to change. @homegrown @lisamelton @mastodonmigration But there are thousands and thousands of domains federating with ActivityPub right now. Your contention is that, when users sign up on any given ActivityPub instance, theyβre doing so because they know they wonβt be federating with Bluesky ever? @ramsey @lisamelton @mastodonmigration Bluesky isn't using ActivityPub. If it was, there wouldn't be any need for a bridge. If they start using it, I'll be posting advising the blocking of its domain (or at least ones connected to Dorsey if they ever actually decentralise), the same way I've been calling for threads.net to be blocked. @homegrown @lisamelton @mastodonmigration Thatβs fine. I donβt agree with running a Bluesky bridge, either, because Bluesky consciously chose not to use ActivityPub and to remain separate from the Fediverse, but I donβt understand why running the bridge would pose legal challenges, since the whole point of these protocols is to federate. @ramsey @lisamelton @mastodonmigration Because it's not the network they signed up for an account on? I am not a lawyer so I cannot comment on legal challenges, I'm just very curious to know if bridging to a network you didn't sign up on with an opt-out system is legal. @homegrown @lisamelton @mastodonmigration Iβm not a lawyer, either, but I would be willing to bet it would be very difficult to argue that in court, since the openness of the protocol means anyone can build an application on it. The βnetworkβ is opaque to users. I have no qualifications on this so I can't really comment on what would happen.  @ramsey @homegrown @lisamelton @mastodonmigration However, Bluesky lead developers were cool with the idea of bridging from the start, Ben, I specifically pressed them on that. So they were always ok with it but didnβt have bandwidth to do themselves. @tchambers @homegrown @lisamelton @mastodonmigration So, why didnβt they use ActivityPub themselves? |
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p.s. The author knows they are on dodgy ground, as they admit they may be defederated because of the bridge:
"I know some admins may determine that this kind of bridge isnβt in their usersβ best interests and choose to defederate/block it. Thatβs their prerogative."