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@neauoire interesting how many people are opposed to make in this thread. definitely smells like distaste born of generated makefiles (autotools, cmake) and makefiles that try to be too clever with magic calls. make at it's core provides a very simple yet very powerful mechanism of dependency based shell execution, which alone makes it very easy to reason about and write 'recipes' for any common tasks (not just builds) you want to do in a project without reinventing half of it in shell. I'm very frustrated that I can't figure out how to make makefiles do very simple things. This is beyond me, who the hell came up with this madness    @neauoire love how the little friend clearly has some spiderweb or other junk on their face but its just not a priority vs vibing through the undergrowth @neauoire obligatory quotation "Reminds me of my safari in Africa. Somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C. Fields" @neauoire Banana slugs? In Europe we've got some of their pretty scarily intense orange cousins... For the past couple of weeks, I drink my morning coffee reading through the 2012 archives of LtU. I feel like each day I understand plt things a tiny little bit better. @neauoire Semi-related: Itβs kind of mindblowing that Angelfire and Lycos are still around. In Verner Vingeβs space opera A Deepness in the Sky, he proposes that one of this futureβs most valuable professions is that of Programmer-Archaeologist. The Programmer-Archaeologist churns through this maddening nest of ancient languages and hidden/forgotten tools to repair existing programs or to find odd things that can be turned to unanticipated uses. Here we were thinking we might soon have to find a village that would let us buy some water. FREE WATER, FROM THE SKY, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT
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@neauoire the elites don't want you to know this, but the water in the sky is free. you can take it home. i have 458 water @neauoire over the weekend I was running a 100' hose from a tiny creek we found up a cliff, down to the shore. (The creek went underground at lower elevations). The return of the on-screen debugging! Got fed up using the terminal to print system status. It's a long, long LONG, way too long, like asked for 400 times too long, added to TODOs half that many time long, added, removed, tried again too long, didn't like it removed it back out too long, long time coming. I've added per-device version printing to #uxn, uxemu, uxncli, uxn11, etc.. I'll increment the versions if I ever break anything again in the mailing list. This is version 1, for each device specs according to the docs. And this will be queriable from within a rom soon too.
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 @neauoire wow! thanks for doing this. i think this will be super helpful and also just kind of fun to play around with. <3 Oh, I just realized where I've stolen the uxntal lambdas from, they're from postscript, I knew I saw this somewhere but I couldn't remember where until now. So, @rek thought of a pretty clever boat hack to re-use the worn out seals from pickling jars. They fit snuggly around mason jars, and will stop them from hitting each other while we're underway. "x+x"  We left Victoria with a medkit that was bursting at the seams with supplies. We're barely into august and we've fallen/gotten bit/walked into barnackles/etc so much that we've ran through all the bandaids we brought with us XD We need to stop falling into brambles and shit @manifoldslug I dunno if you remember when you last mentioned the simpler uxn core, I spent some time today to bring it upstream with the latest changes and reconnected it :)  @neauoire it's cool to see that when coupled with the changes in the interface, it has become more concise than the old simple core I remember:> also, it's interesting that the reference impl has gravitated back towards simplicity! @tbsp was it you who had made a uxn demo where you could paint pixels that looked like out a spray can? I'm looking for it @neauoire did you take a look at zzo38's work here? they seem to have something similar in uxn38 We previously defined a programming language with the help of Turing machines. We chose poorly.  > With universal machines, they explained why itβs impossible to decide if a given Turing machine ever halts NO. NO THEY DIDN'T. :blobscream:β see my pinned posts!β  @neauoire I'm not sure the halting problem is a good argument here (unless you go into Total Functional Programming), but... I do like this paradigm! @neauoire my problem with the "lambda calculus is superior" argument is that AFAIK there are no computing machines that are based on lambda calculus. Turing machines are a lot more straightforward as a basis for constructing a computing device. Lambda calculus on the other hand requires a fairly deep understanding of mathematics and mathematical notation to understand well, and doesn't have physical analogues in the same way. Anyways, I could be wrong and just less familiar with lambdas. |
@neauoire might not be the real answer but this is part of the map from https://connectedcoast.ca
@neauoire *camera pans down beneath the boat to show six mermaids with glasses clustered around a WAP sealed in a plastic bag, typing happily on their laptops*