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Drew DeVault

I think it's about time to actually finish implementing error handling on IPC operations in the kernel

Drew DeVault

(taking a break from ranting about capitalism for a moment)

Drew DeVault

Really fucking sick of white savior techbros going into impoverished communities and imposing their "solutions" on them, with the caveat that they can only have it if the white techbro gets rich in the process, and also can I scan your eyeballs please

I don't want to hear about your stupid fucking startup's stupid fucking idea to save brown people, I want you to give them money

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@drewdevault scanning your eyeballs to train their pet AI on... for money (or worse)

Drew DeVault

"AI will revolutionize medicine and education"

Human doctors and teachers do better. The estimated market cap for the AI industry is 136.55B USD and, if that were invested directly into these fields, we could use the same money to train ~600,000 doctors or >1M teachers

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Rick

@drewdevault I work in research applying machine learning to pathology. We have a pretty big network of pathologists that are really excited at the potential for a machine to handle the tedious, and error prone tasks of evaluating tissue samples; allowing them to focus more on the parts of their job that a machine cannot do. End goal to improve patient outcomes by supporting the pathologists in diagnostics and drug development. Happy to share more of this perspective if it's of interest.

Thomas Guyot-Sionnest

@drewdevault there are many areas where AI will make a change. It won't replace doctors and researchers but will definitively assist them.

For example, trained AI models can outperform radiologist at finding tumors. In the end a radiologist will always be there but they can spot details that will be ready to miss even from a trained radiologist.

It's also very promising for research, being able to process massive amounts of scientific literature and extract very specific details.

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@drewdevault Unfortunately healing people and saving lives on a daily basis isn’t something the media are interested in.

Drew DeVault

GitHub copilot didn't revolutionize webshit, Squarespace did

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blake shaw 🇵🇸

@drewdevault

just to clarify, why do you say that the world isn't going to burn any faster due to AI, while acknowledging the incredible CO2 emissions it will continue to produce?

I've been struck by watching LLaMA2 work my computer with similar vigor as when I'm rendering scenes with Blender Cycles, taking 5 minutes to formulate a response. Of course, AI-centric cloud GPUs are much more efficient, but considering the aspiration is to get companies to use LLaMA2 to create gimmick smart interfaces to every webapp, it seems to me like like significant compute resources will soon be used where none was previously needed (example: documentation. we can bet that lots of companies will start offering smart documentation to their products, and it will become something "customers demand" so that they can ask a bot how to use Ableton Live or Microsoft Word or whatever how to do things instead of navigating the manual. this seems to me wreckless at best when the planet is already burning.)

@drewdevault

just to clarify, why do you say that the world isn't going to burn any faster due to AI, while acknowledging the incredible CO2 emissions it will continue to produce?

I've been struck by watching LLaMA2 work my computer with similar vigor as when I'm rendering scenes with Blender Cycles, taking 5 minutes to formulate a response. Of course, AI-centric cloud GPUs are much more efficient, but considering the aspiration is to get companies to use LLaMA2 to create gimmick smart interfaces...

Thomas MK

@drewdevault Natural selection found a general intelligence (humans), so I don't see why a ridiculous pile of GPUs can't find a general intelligence with gradient descent. Gradient descent is a much more efficient optimization algorithm than the evolutionary algorithms that natural selection used, because the gradients give a lot more information. And we also have done the hard work of creating the hardware for the intelligence already, which natural selection had to do separately.

6t8k

@drewdevault another aspect that often gets overlooked is that machine "learning", at least the currently often used and hyped variants of it, further entrench the past into the future – something we really do not need currently.

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Drew DeVault

Really fucking convenient how capitalism simps hard for intellectual property rights up until the moment that they realize they can feed the world's sum creativity into their carbon-spitting GPU farms to churn out crappy news articles on the cheap

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Stanislav Ochotnický

@drewdevault I wonder if we could create a poison pill license for various content that would force all the AI models to open up if they ingest and regurgitate stuff.

pgcd

@drewdevault no, wait, they still simp for IP, as long as it's theirs. It's just the little people's who doesn't matter.

marc

@drewdevault I saw one article put it rather nicely. AI is neither artificial nor intelligent. It's not artificial, it regurgitates knowledge that humans created by employing human labor it exploits to categorize that knowledge.

Drew DeVault

"Apolitical" discussion is a made-up bullshit concept

Jackie Jude

@drewdevault yeah, my existence is political, being "apolitical" is a privilege (and also means accepting the state's ideology)

Drew DeVault

Machine learning is a technology that I can only see making the world worse. Not because of silly doomer AGI fear mongering, but just because it sucks and most of its applications are about replacing expensive, competent humans with cheap, crappy robots. And I don't think it'll get better. Add capitalist garbage and military use and you have a steaming pile of turds.

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awooo :blobfoxcheck: 🏴‍☠️ :bisexual_flag: 🐾 ⎇

@drewdevault I'm definitely worried about surveillance, and I think that in this case making AI run on everything will accelerate it by decentralizing it. Users are locked out of their devices, and it's only a matter of time until someone decides to install a scanning system similar to the ones we've seen, but for more, including what you do and what your intentions are.

Robots being able to do more simple tasks looks neat, but you know what's easier than doing useful work? Shooting projectiles at human beings, war.

If we don't overcome this system soon enough, AI will have the effect of locking us into our biases and abusive power dynamics, there won't be an easy way out.

I don't think there's stopping it since the knowledge is out there. We can only control what people do, and the profit-driven legal constructs we summoned do. Before it's too late.

@drewdevault I'm definitely worried about surveillance, and I think that in this case making AI run on everything will accelerate it by decentralizing it. Users are locked out of their devices, and it's only a matter of time until someone decides to install a scanning system similar to the ones we've seen, but for more, including what you do and what your intentions are.

Mikołaj Hołysz

@drewdevault Accessibility is a powerful counterexample. Whisper lets you create pretty accurate transcripts for pennies, on your own machine, even for low-ish resource languages. Humans are still better if you can afford them, but not everyone can. There’s an app I use that lets my screen reader read expiration dates on products (this is specialized OCR, not Transformers AFAIK, so much less prone to hallucinations.) Modern OCR that can deal with the unsteady hand of a blind user who doesn’t actually know where the text is has been a godsend, same for screen recognition. It's not just the typical kinds of accessibility either, quite a few people who were discriminated against due to poor command of English are now treated better because of Chat GPT fixing their writing.

@drewdevault Accessibility is a powerful counterexample. Whisper lets you create pretty accurate transcripts for pennies, on your own machine, even for low-ish resource languages. Humans are still better if you can afford them, but not everyone can. There’s an app I use that lets my screen reader read expiration dates on products (this is specialized OCR, not Transformers AFAIK, so much less prone to hallucinations.) Modern OCR that can deal with the unsteady hand of a blind user who doesn’t actually...

flow

@drewdevault I'm with you. I listened to this episode on 1960s 'Eliza' chatbot creator recently and that conversation helped surface many criticisms of AI. My deepest concern is how we culturally perceive or apply computing/human effort in similar ways, and conflate these different things in a qualitative sense. Computing has so much potential, but not in a consequence in which computational application is an extension of commerce/policing/militarism, and in which humans are mis-perceived as being also kind of 'like' computers.

So I think... the ways in which we'll increasingly see AI applied will be as replacement for human/community, and as the qualities aren't *there* within the machinic assemblage, to interact with the qualities of human/community, that's where harm will be caused, exarcerbated, and the current problems within our existing society will only be extended by these applications of tech.

@drewdevault I'm with you. I listened to this episode on 1960s 'Eliza' chatbot creator recently and that conversation helped surface many criticisms of AI. My deepest concern is how we culturally perceive or apply computing/human effort in similar ways, and conflate these different things in a qualitative sense. Computing has so much potential, but not in a consequence in which computational application is an extension of commerce/policing/militarism, and in which humans are mis-perceived as being...

crabctrl

@drewdevault smh that's nothing, competing services have been sharing API keys for ages without even needing you to ask or want them to :P

Drew DeVault

よくやった!英語じゃないの言語がもう禁止じゃない!

Drew DeVault

opentf.org/announcement

This is going to *ruin* hashcorp. Any other companies looking to steal their FOSS projects from the community: take notes.

Hugo 雨果

@drewdevault Honestly, Hashicorp ruined itself. This is basically the expected reaction to their actions.

Drew DeVault

github.com/chromium/chromium/c

Rayan Kanso, Peter Pakkenberg, Dmitry Gozman, Richard Coles, and Kinuko Yasuda are now persona non-grata for any matters over which I have decision making powers regarding hiring, contracts, etc.

Every programmer has a private responsibility regarding their complicity in writing and shipping harmful software.

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Carmen Bianca BAKKER

@drewdevault We really need a Hippocratic Oath or similar ethical standard for programmers.

Instead, in my years of studying software engineering at NHL Stenden, I never _once_ had a single ethics course, and Microsoft bought influence over several teachers.

Nour Agha :popos:

@drewdevault What startles me about the modern tech industry is how many people call themselves 'engineers' and how loosely it's thrown around when ethics are at the centre of any field of engineering and at the core of any engineering program and degree, although these days you no longer need an engineering degree to call yourself an engineer. This may be a factor along with marketing and other teams driving design and decision-making over engineers, but they still have every responsibility.

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@drewdevault the reason why Chromium developers aren't so public on Internet or in real life is because they would banned or


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Drew DeVault

The Yggdrasil network is really cool but god I wish they'd write a spec already

Drew DeVault

Casually crushing the kernel problems over the past few days which have plagued me for like six weeks

Drew DeVault

Tip: work incrementally and make stuff backwards compatible and your life is much easier than it would be with a complete overhaul

Drew DeVault

Shoutout to all of the contributors to SourceGraph whose work was just made closed source, big thanks to SourceGraph for pissing on them, I'm sure they really appreciate it. All those users who thought your FOSS product was really cool surely still think your product is super cool now that you've taken their rights away

Drew DeVault

Big reason I don't like open core models is not just because they cause nonfree software to proliferate but also because it's a pretty clear promise, especially when combined with a CLA, that they will pull the rug at the first sign of a bad quarter.

Drew DeVault

All my international homies hate KYC

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