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Zack Weinberg

oh wow they found place cells in zebrafish thetransmitter.org/spatial-cog

fish brains don't have any obvious _structural_ analogue of the mammalian hippocampus, but this suggests that the _functional_ analogue evolved very, very early in vertebrates; maybe even earlier than vertebrates (we know octopuses have excellent spatial memory, after all)

also they had to invent a robotic microscope that chases the fish larvae around, that's nifty in itself

oh wow they found place cells in zebrafish thetransmitter.org/spatial-cog

fish brains don't have any obvious _structural_ analogue of the mammalian hippocampus, but this suggests that the _functional_ analogue evolved very, very early in vertebrates; maybe even earlier than vertebrates (we know octopuses have excellent spatial memory, after all)

Zack Weinberg

It's late enough to be hacker hours, if you're as old as I am. Gonna write down a bunch of rambly thoughts about #xz and #autoconf and capital-F Free Software sustainability and all that jazz. Plan is to edit it into a Proper Blog Post™ tomorrow. Rest of the thread will be unlisted but boosts and responses are encouraged.

Zack Weinberg

Starting with the very specific: I do not think it was an accident that the xz backdoor's exploit chain started with a modified version of a third party .m4 file to be compiled into xz's configure script.

It's possible to write incomprehensible, underhanded code in any programming language. There's competitions for it, even. But when you have a programming language, or perhaps a mashup of two languages, that everyone *expects* not to be able to understand — no matter how careful the author is — well, then you have what we might call an attractive nuisance. And when blobs of code in that language are passed around in copy-and-paste fashion without much review or testing or version control, that makes it an even easier target.

So, in my capacity as one of the last few people still keeping autoconf limping along, I'm thinking pretty hard about what could be done to replace its implementation language, and concurrently what could be done to improve development practice for both autoconf and its extensions (the macro archive, gnulib, etc.)

Starting with the very specific: I do not think it was an accident that the xz backdoor's exploit chain started with a modified version of a third party .m4 file to be compiled into xz's configure script.

It's possible to write incomprehensible, underhanded code in any programming language. There's competitions for it, even. But when you have a programming language, or perhaps a mashup of two languages, that everyone *expects* not to be able to understand — no matter how careful the author is — well,...

Zack Weinberg

@marcan this is a serious question: what (besides developer hours) would stand in the way of decoupling the Wayland *interfaces* from the Wayland *display server*, and making that display server implement all of the X11 interfaces as well as all the Wayland interfaces?

I ask this question because it seems like this refactoring might be the path of least resistance toward implementing the missing accessibility features in Wayland-the-display-server.

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