@Black_Flag I get it only too well. We've become addicted to feeding the bear and overlooking that the bear has gotten fat and we are short of food.

@Black_Flag they are envious and have to find a justification 😂

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Ironically, I learned years ago as a new climber that if I wanted to improve faster, I should climb like a woman. Men who are just starting are more prone to using their arm strength to hug the rock, which is an unnecessary strain. Women catch on to the smart technique of hanging with straight arms and taking advantage of leg strength.

You end up developing your upper body strength faster because you can climb for longer.

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*I was an athlete in high school*& I had muscles*& the same type of build like the women's water polo team back than!*& I wasn't anything than a heterosexual woman.But later in life maybe college years I found out that many of my old teammates from highschool were homosexual or transgender or something?*Didn't bother me one bit!*& Than those same young women many of them many more years later had gotten married to men*& had children.*To each his or her own!