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Fi, infosec-aspected

This view is useful.

"Tolerance" is not an absolute. Refusing to abide by the terms -

e.g. promoting views that deliberately oppose those of tolerance -

constitutes a breach, and thus those actions are not covered.

Easy.

The paradox of tolerance disappears if you look at tolerance Not as a moral standard but as a social contract.

If someone does not abide by the terms of the contract, they are not covered by it.

In other words, the intolerant are not following the rules of the social contract of tolerance.

Since they have breached the terms of the contract, they are no longer covered by its terms and their actions should not be tolerated.
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Fi, infosec-aspected

Which, thinking this through, means that a Code of Conduct can be phrased as describing a behavioral contract amongst the members of a community, with the penalty for breach being ejection from the community.

Heh. This has a lot of useful ancillary thoughts attached...

Sister Rock Star

@munin

I saw a gay liberal Israel supporter post this exact same meme and almost threw the fuck up

Floppy 💾

@munin That's a great way to frame and look at it.

That means tolerance is not something somebody has or not, but exists between people. A form of mutual relation that both (or all) parties necessarily need to contribute too.

Like a dialogue. Communication can be one-way, monologues can be exchanged. But when one stops contributing to a dialogue, there is no dialogue anymore.

So if one party ceases to uphold the shared value of tolerance, there is no tolerance present for anyone anymore.

Fi, infosec-aspected

One of the subtle but universally-recontextualizing experiences I've had from transitioning has been the realization that people's sensory experiences are -vastly- more divergent from each other than I had ever assumed previously.

'cuz like, yeah, I'm a bit nearsighted; people put signs in places where I have to squint or have my glasses on to see them; obviously they're not going to do that if they have discomfort when they put 'em up - so their sensory experience of the world differs from mine in that way.

But from transitioning I've had changes in my perception of color - like, actual shifts in the perception of color values, to the point where things I would have labeled as 'green' I can now see are blue - of smell, of taste, of touch - every sense is now fundamentally a different experience than it was before.

And that's just the base-level body senses of the world outside, not even counting the interpersonal experiences.

It's given me a lot to think about, with how people have fundamentally divergent experiences of reality - how even the same exact situation will be parsed by different people differently, because their sensory experiences may well have marked divergence.

And it's given me a new appreciation for how imprecise language is - because language, the API that lets us communicate these experiences, will always be lossy and -that's a good thing-.

One of the subtle but universally-recontextualizing experiences I've had from transitioning has been the realization that people's sensory experiences are -vastly- more divergent from each other than I had ever assumed previously.

'cuz like, yeah, I'm a bit nearsighted; people put signs in places where I have to squint or have my glasses on to see them; obviously they're not going to do that if they have discomfort when they put 'em up - so their sensory experience of the world differs from mine in that way.

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