Which, thinking this through, means that a Code of Conduct can be phrased as describing a behavioral contract amongst the members of a community, with the penalty for breach being ejection from the community.
Heh. This has a lot of useful ancillary thoughts attached...
@munin That's a great way to frame and look at it.
That means tolerance is not something somebody has or not, but exists between people. A form of mutual relation that both (or all) parties necessarily need to contribute too.
Like a dialogue. Communication can be one-way, monologues can be exchanged. But when one stops contributing to a dialogue, there is no dialogue anymore.
So if one party ceases to uphold the shared value of tolerance, there is no tolerance present for anyone anymore.
One of the subtle but universally-recontextualizing experiences I've had from transitioning has been the realization that people's sensory experiences are -vastly- more divergent from each other than I had ever assumed previously.
'cuz like, yeah, I'm a bit nearsighted; people put signs in places where I have to squint or have my glasses on to see them; obviously they're not going to do that if they have discomfort when they put 'em up - so their sensory experience of the world differs from mine in that way.
But from transitioning I've had changes in my perception of color - like, actual shifts in the perception of color values, to the point where things I would have labeled as 'green' I can now see are blue - of smell, of taste, of touch - every sense is now fundamentally a different experience than it was before.
And that's just the base-level body senses of the world outside, not even counting the interpersonal experiences.
It's given me a lot to think about, with how people have fundamentally divergent experiences of reality - how even the same exact situation will be parsed by different people differently, because their sensory experiences may well have marked divergence.
And it's given me a new appreciation for how imprecise language is - because language, the API that lets us communicate these experiences, will always be lossy and -that's a good thing-.
One of the subtle but universally-recontextualizing experiences I've had from transitioning has been the realization that people's sensory experiences are -vastly- more divergent from each other than I had ever assumed previously.
'cuz like, yeah, I'm a bit nearsighted; people put signs in places where I have to squint or have my glasses on to see them; obviously they're not going to do that if they have discomfort when they put 'em up - so their sensory experience of the world differs from mine in that way.
Which, thinking this through, means that a Code of Conduct can be phrased as describing a behavioral contract amongst the members of a community, with the penalty for breach being ejection from the community.
Heh. This has a lot of useful ancillary thoughts attached...
@munin
I saw a gay liberal Israel supporter post this exact same meme and almost threw the fuck up
@munin That's a great way to frame and look at it.
That means tolerance is not something somebody has or not, but exists between people. A form of mutual relation that both (or all) parties necessarily need to contribute too.
Like a dialogue. Communication can be one-way, monologues can be exchanged. But when one stops contributing to a dialogue, there is no dialogue anymore.
So if one party ceases to uphold the shared value of tolerance, there is no tolerance present for anyone anymore.