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Radio Resistance

@gerrymcgovern And most communities don't have a newspaper like the Oregonian to spend this time and money looking into a story like this, the corporations just get to do what they want. It's pathetic how deeply corrupt our "systems" are in this country. Imagine if just some citizen wanted to pursue this story, it would be impossible, unless they were multi-millionaires.

Radio Resistance

@Radical_EgoCom I wonder if there's anyone smart enough to know this answer, if it's even a question that people might consider.

What is the ideal number of people who can form a self-governing, direct democracy, with the people owning the means of production?

I feel like 100s of millions is too many. It seems like there's a point where it becomes too tempting by a few to try to control the many by force or coercion. And then if it gets too big, people feel compelled to root out the usurpers, people form factions, and then the cycle starts of violence and oppression.

@Radical_EgoCom I wonder if there's anyone smart enough to know this answer, if it's even a question that people might consider.

What is the ideal number of people who can form a self-governing, direct democracy, with the people owning the means of production?

I feel like 100s of millions is too many. It seems like there's a point where it becomes too tempting by a few to try to control the many by force or coercion. And then if it gets too big, people feel compelled to root out the usurpers, people...

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@arrrg
The key lies in decentralized, local communes or federations rather than determining an ideal size for a centralized direct democracy. Small, self-governing communities foster direct participation, minimize power imbalances, and reduce the risk of coercion and violence associated with larger populations. The focus, then, would be on creating a network of interconnected, cooperative communities to collectively manage resources and decision-making without a hierarchical structure.

Ginny Bee

@arrrg great question. I feel like once you get past a few hundred all bets are off. The only experience I've had that comes close is at small startups. One of those was abt 100 people, all somewhat like-minded... even then there were plenty of squabbles over product design, goals of the company, who's in charge, etc etc. A slightly bigger startup that had great leaders was also pretty good. I think the expectation of power over others (and huge profits) is what ruins it.

cc @Radical_EgoCom

Radio Resistance

@Tutanota here's how people should approach this issue. it's like when we had to use pay phones that we knew the government could listen to whenever they want to, we were smart about it.

assume none of your devices are secure and act accordingly.

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