Danil

@fabiscafe @lynnesbian > isnt going to break in 2 month

Many complex linux software depends on GPU and kernel features.
What flatpak do - cut all features - and software will work impossible slow with no use of GPU features.
Basic obvious example - Firefox.
Native Firefox work multiple times faster.

And there more software in flatpak builds that does not even work, software that designed to do stuff GPU-stuff and modern features.

Building software with "no features" - this is not solution.

Like 29 January at 2:37 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place

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@danil @fabiscafe
flatpaks definitely support GPU acceleration...

29 January at 2:54 | Open on fedi.lynnesbian.space

Danil

@lynnesbian @fabiscafe not all types, and I mention combination of kernel features+GPU acceleration, and GPU part does not work without kernel features - and flatpak remove kernel features - GPU acceleration that depends on those also removed - slowdown/downgrade

29 January at 4:39 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place

Fabian (Bocchi) 🏳️‍🌈

@danil @lynnesbian Is there an example of something that's not possible?

29 January at 10:06 | Open on mstdn.social

Danil

@fabiscafe @lynnesbian entire python ML-CUDA stuff, and its replacement for Vulkan-compute and AMD ROCM.
I step on it few month ago - wanted to install some libs and they were "presented" only in flatpak - I installed - it does not even work because all GPU-kernel features just cut.
I do not remember name, and will not waste time trying to find it.
I also listed Firefox as obvious example - Firefox depends on kernel features that allow to "fast swap GPU-memory" - compare WebGL there.

29 January at 15:18 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place

Fabian (Bocchi) 🏳️‍🌈

@danil @lynnesbian True, the entire Nvidia stack depends on a matching version of the nvidia driver inside the flatpak runtime and on the system. If you mix in wayland, you also need GBM and KMS enabled on the "host" side and if you then mix in xwayland, you also need a pretty recent (latest?) driver version. Thats not flatpak, but mostly Nvidia.

So pretty much anything that uses freedesktop runtime >=21.08.9 should work.

29 January at 15:34 | Open on mstdn.social