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RealGene ☣️

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The Postal Service lawyers responsible for editing witness statements should be disbarred, or whatever they call it in the UK.

Phil Haigh

@RealGene @arstechnica ideally charged with a crime and spending some prison time. As should those who kept quiet when they knew what was going on. Fujitsu should have blown this wide open in the very first court case. There is no defence for this at all. None.

DELETED

@arstechnica It's not a bug, it's a feature. Remember that now next time you see a computer program accuse people of a crime.

David LaFontaine

@arstechnica open up the drive thru window at the Fujitsu bank for this atrocity

excited for the mastodon rise

@arstechnica literally the people that hid them should be the ones in jail. AND paying reparations.

SaftyKuma

@arstechnica Fujitsu's officers and board should be the ones going to prison.

et konsept fra BAR

@arstechnica Hey, what if all code used by the government had to be auditable, huh? What about that? publiccode.eu/en/

Charles U. Farley

Same as Toyota did with their sudden unintended acceleration problem when a guy was on trial for murder because of it.

Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)

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> Software bugs were hidden from lawyers of wrongly convicted UK postal workers.

Not saying open-source is perfect, but if there was ever a good reason for copy-left licenses such as the where the end user has the right to ask for the source code, this is it.

Not that the post master would be able to understand it themselves, but their legal defence could request it, then have a trusted third party review it.

clacke: looking for something πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡­πŸ‡°πŸ’™πŸ’›

@stuartl Giving the Post Office access to the Fujitsu source code wouldn't have helped the people accused by the Post Office.

What would have been needed here would have been public code, going further than even copyleft.

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J.H.Noyes

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Thank God we have generative AI to help corporations write more sincere apologies going forward because this one is terrible.
@trashcaster

John Burns

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The broken lives. Time lost. Lives lost. Financial losses.

The prosecutors and all involved in covering up those errors should be reporting to prison right now... to serve similar time / penalties- handed out to innocent workers.

There must be at minimum equal consequences imposed - especially due to level of power they had in the cycle.

Twinscales

@arstechnica Remind me why people that work in the judicial system and do this kind of nightmarish thing aren't sent to prison like the rest of us?

Michael Dexter

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Will AI be like a casino? The house always wins?
@bsdphk

Lord Kusuriya ​:tower:​

@dexter Mr. House always wins, at least till you destroy all his robots and rip him out of his life support pod...
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Lats

@arstechnica we had a problem like that in Australia called Robodebt where algorithms were used to supposedly detect overpayments of welfare benefits. It was illegal but was ideologically sound so they all conspired to go with it and people suicided, developed mental health issues, had money stolen from them and had their lives ruined while the government defended the scheme.

Vivi

@arstechnica literally the plot to Brazil (1985)

LyleDAL

@arstechnica Do they have class action lawsuits in the UK? Because, I see a HUGE lawsuit against Fujitsu and the Post Office here.

Greengordon

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These lawyers should be in jail and bankrupt.

"the Post Office's lawyers had rewritten Fujitsu witness statements."

noplasticshower

@arstechnica when AI does this, nobody will know there's a bug

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