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skua

@epiceneVivant

That is puzzling stuff.
It clearly knows what to do.
And sets about doing it.
But it seems to go off-track, or be paying attention to something else and not be highly effective, at least twice.

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Sen the Professional

@skua I noticed that. My first thought was their visual processing (as applied to this task) probably isn't like ours.

Of course, they're not human, so nothing says they need to have the same cognitive process *around* tool using that we do. What looks like 'off-track' or 'distracted' to us might just be part of how *they* think about tools.

Bearing in mind that their language probably includes full-body gestures, that might even be the crow talking to themself.

Sami Juvonen

@epiceneVivant @skua I thought it clearly went to check if it had pushed far enough yet. Third time’s the charm.

Maggie Maybe

@sjuvonen @epiceneVivant @skua yeah that’s what I saw him doing too. He pushed it a little then he went to see if he could reach it, then when he couldn’t he went back and pushed it some more.

Lea

@skua @epiceneVivant
Not off-track, it was just checking to see if the food had moved far enough yet or if it needed to push more.

Urban Hermit

@skua @epiceneVivant yeah, it is almost like he can't see through the tube that we see as clear, as well as we can. He has to go right and check twice to see if he accomplished the task, walking straight by the visual indicator that is clearly showing that no, he hasn't.

Wild animals don't waste energy, their lives are too stressed. If he could see it he wouldn't check until done.

The tool use is the main thing, but there is a 2nd paper in this if it could be confirmed.

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