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In Search of a Better World

@tychotithonus @robertatcara A lot of dumbass prepper types got upset when nothing happened with Y2K, because they were getting all hot in the trousers at the thought of doing all that prepper stuff. They've never got over their sulk at the effort put into making sure society didn't collapse. That is why they keep talking up the dismissive "fuss over nothing" line, they don't want to prevent pain and suffering, because they want to cosplay Mad Max/Baron Hardup, they wanted and want collapse.

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Royce Williams

@CrypticMirror

I know there are plenty of folks like that, but I hesitate to attach this description to the OP - I don't know him at all.

@robertatcara

thepoliticalcat

@CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara What they don't realize is, 1 week without the benefits of civilization, and they'll be dead of a bone infection that turned into sepsis, or COVID, or just about anything out there, really. The worst things are the ones you can't see. Valley Fever from the soil. Ticks, parasitic worms, cuts when you don't have access to treatment, like antibiotics ...

Luci For Tai Chi

@thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara whenever i hear about y2k i think about the water treatment plant that sacked all its scientists because there hadn’t been a cryptosporidia outbreak in 10 years.

Luci For Tai Chi

@thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara there must be a name for this logical fallacy. X worked to eliminate Y so we don’t need X anymore

Rob Sison

@bri_seven @thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara Donald MacKenzie of U. Edinburgh has done some sociology work on beliefs/models that are "counterperformative" if they tend to encourage action whose impact tends to (apparently) undermine their own assumptions/preconditions

He's written some stuff about the histories of formal software verification and financial markets as models that encourage action that undermines/reinforces their own assumptions, respectively

Rob Sison

@bri_seven @thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara so roughly speaking "we should take system-critical software flaws like the y2k bug seriously" is counterperformative in this sense because it caused everything to get fixed, so unfortunately then we have this situation where people aren't taking future things like this seriously

Steven Bodzin bike & subscribe

@bri_seven @thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara a lot of libertarians have come out of CUNY, U Virginia, U Texas, etc.... Same energy

thepoliticalcat

@bri_seven @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara Go ahead, tell me. Did they immediately find themselves in the middle of a raging outbreak?

Steven Bodzin bike & subscribe

@thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara no need to get so exotic. Most of them can't survive without weekly gasoline fillups. The silliest thing about mad Max was the idea that you could produce fuel fit for racecars in a refinery lacking access to reliable electricity, specialty chemicals, testing labs, precision valve makers, firefighting foam...

thepoliticalcat

@stevenbodzin @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara The spouse is a scientist, and you have no idea how he loves to harsh my mellow with a dose of facts.

In Search of a Better World

@thepoliticalcat @tychotithonus @robertatcara

I almost died of a necrotic gallbladder a few years ago. If it hadn't been for prompt hospital treatment, I'd be dead by now. And I didn't even do anything to prompt it happening. My gall bladder just up and randomly got a blocked bile duct out of nowhere.

Without civilisations, anything can kill you. Including nothing. Just pure randomness can kill you. Wouldn't have mattered how "prepped" I was.

tyx

@thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara LOL, you sound like you are unaware of people living in countries, where there is no hospital in a freaking 300km radius around most of the villages and no roads or of people doing their fieldwork every year (say hi to Siberia with tick-borne encephalitis everywhere and no paved roads as well).
Civilization is cool and comfortable, but humans are tough enough to live without.

Also: good prepper or experienced expedition scientist usually has a stash of AB, antihelminthic, antihistamine, anti-inflammatory drugs, wound treatment kit, insect repellents, tick-proof clothes and up-to date knowledge how to use all this.

@thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara LOL, you sound like you are unaware of people living in countries, where there is no hospital in a freaking 300km radius around most of the villages and no roads or of people doing their fieldwork every year (say hi to Siberia with tick-borne encephalitis everywhere and no paved roads as well).
Civilization is cool and comfortable, but humans are tough enough to live without.

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