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Mallory's Musings & Mischief

Can we just stop using Discord and go back to using forum sites?

I realize it's (comparatively) super easy to set up, but y'all realize it's just going to bite us all in the ass as soon as someone at Discord decides they need to turn up the profit ratio?

It's a ticking time bomb. The whole thing is going to follow the enshittification process, and anything of value on there is going to be lost/sold/destroyed.

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Manuel Correia

@malcircuit
@roundcrisis 100%
Also, forums were a repository of knowledge in a way discord simply cannot be, due to it's "avalanche of conversations" approach.

J.A. Bell :verified_coffee:

@malcircuit communities I am a part of use Discord, so Discord is where I’ll be for now.

Discord probably shouldn’t be a knowledge base though, true. And none of the communities I’m a part of use it as such.

mcSlibinas

@malcircuit yes! Discord works well for small minecraft servers - all of info, rules, suggestions any so on, and discord is good enough for family talks, pic or links sharing.

But not for forums. The bigger forum - the worse on discord. At some user count it goes unusable at all.

waem

@mcSlibinas @malcircuit humm no one mentioned mattermost. A reason? Okay it's not FLOSS, but it seems to me like the better alternative to discord.

Roger BW 😷

@malcircuit If you want real-time chat: IRC, matrix, Discourse. If you want a forum: Discourse. Even as a confirmed forum-hater from the USENET days I like Discourse. But most crucially these are all things you can run on your own server with free software..

Klaus Stein

@malcircuit I don't like forum websites very much, but I also don't get why (open source) projects put there docs/FAQs etc on discord channels.
Using discord as a project chat is somehow fine for me.

There also is revolt.chat/ as an open source alternative to discord. Played around with it a bit.

M4TTBIT :vim: :pico8:

@malcircuit Agreed. That's one reason why I run my own website. You never know when a service changes or closes.

Christiaan Moleman

@malcircuit No, because forums do not serve the same purpose as they do not work the same way at all.

Closest equivalent is IRC chat, which last I checked does not have the same features and accessibility and is therefore significantly less usable (if at all) for community building purposes.

Unless IRC becomes easier to use and more advanced or someone makes a solid open source Discord clone with good UX we're stuck with this and any possible (admittedly not unlikely) future enshitification.

Christiaan Moleman

@malcircuit That being said, Discord is great for some things (mainly casual chat and sharing of cool links), but not everything.

Using it as repository for files or information instead of having a normal site is highly impractical. It should exist *alongside* websites, not replace them.

Steven G. Harms

@malcircuit

My awkward thirst post about a 90s TV star is still findable on Usenet

My dozens of questions about HTF does Java Swing work are lost to fora of the early 00s.

Why hearken back to fora over Usenet? Is it the centralization (?) of Discord that makes you keen against it?

Ripp

@malcircuit yeah discord lack of making any of their standards open or even supporting third party is a massive checkhov's gun to me and a lot of things are going into the firing line.

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