@thomasfuchs this is kinda why I dislike the tech industry...

@thomasfuchs this is kinda why I dislike the tech industry trying to barge into the audio industry and dictate their own terms. Felt like when the 3.5mm jack was removed it was them saying it’s outdated and we all just need to move on to BT.

Guess what still works after 15 years? My AKG headphones. Guess what doesn’t work? The BT connection between my iPod nano and my AirPods, despite them being only 5 years apart.

Audio should be timeless. But that’s not “cool”, I guess.

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mos_8502 :verified:

@xodium @thomasfuchs My quarter-inch stereo Koss can headphones from the 70s work like the day they were made. Any new headphone is lucky to last a year.

29 Dec 2023 at 3:05 | Open on studio8502.ca

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@xodium @thomasfuchs also BT doesn't have full quality duplex.

I have a slight hearing deficiency. I have tinnitus and I find the mids close to my tinnitus frequency muddy. BT duplex compression removes high end and low end of the audio leaving only the middle.

I use a separate mic and force the BT headset into half duplex AAC mode in Linux. This is not possible on windows, android or mac.

2023 and they can't figure out full duplex Opus or something. 64k x2, 128kbits ought to do it.
BT sucks.

@xodium @thomasfuchs also BT doesn't have full quality duplex.

I have a slight hearing deficiency. I have tinnitus and I find the mids close to my tinnitus frequency muddy. BT duplex compression removes high end and low end of the audio leaving only the middle.

I use a separate mic and force the BT headset into half duplex AAC mode in Linux. This is not possible on windows, android or mac.

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29 Dec 2023 at 3:12 | Open on social.linux.pizza

Chris/XodiumRetro

@farseen yeah that’s one of the hilarious bits to me. The pro-BT crowd said that hey, things will get better because Apple’s forcing it along! Guys, Bluetooth has sucked, continues to suck, and likely will always suck at this rate.

That we still have to suffer with a protocol that can’t walk and chew gum at the same time when 2024 is on our doorstep just feels…nuts to me.

29 Dec 2023 at 3:18 | Open on bitbang.social

Jonathan Hendry

@xodium @thomasfuchs

And it's not like having a headphone jack makes bluetooth not work for audio.

29 Dec 2023 at 4:01 | Open on iosdev.space

Chris/XodiumRetro

@jonhendry @thomasfuchs indeed. We used to have the choice! And then companies began charging us extra for shoddy dongles but the real motivator was so they could force you into buying their headphones.

Because every. Single. OEM. Who removed the jack just so conveniently had a set of BT headphones to sell you.

Sly jerks.

29 Dec 2023 at 6:17 | Open on bitbang.social